[WikiEN-l] POV on Israel

[Tariq Ab- Jo- Tu-]

Why not? Not everyone celebrates Christmas; the majority of the world is 
not Christian. And issues on Wikipedia are not going to take a holiday 
regardless. And I won't even touch this statement -- "the birth of the 
world's most famous Jew"

-- Tariq Ab- Jo- Tu-

Parker Peters wrote:
> Do we really have to deal with antisemitic bastard behavior the day before
> most of the world celebrates the birth of the world's most famous Jew?
>
> I mean, seriously. This kind of racist POV-pushing is bad enough on
> wikipedia, now we have to deal with it on the ML and at this time of year?
>
> Shame on you.
>
> Parker
>
> On 12/23/06, Argis Rohat <argis.rohat at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> This is the entire passage under the heading "Israel" in the article
>> "Allegations of apartheid"
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid
>>
>> Does any objective person consider it to be NPOV?
>>
>> *Israel*
>> *Main article:
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>Allegations
>> of Israeli apartheid<
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_Israeli_apartheid>
>> *
>>
>> The phrase "Israeli apartheid" (or the terming of
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>Israel<
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel>an
>> "apartheid state") is a controversial phrase used by some critics of
>> Israel, who compare Israel's treatment of
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>Palestinians<
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians>with
>> the treatment of blacks in apartheid-era South Africa.
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>[82]<
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid#_note-Pilger>The
>> majority of academics and journalists who have commented on the term
>> are
>> reported to deplore its use
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>[83]<
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid#_note-Adam>on
>> the grounds that it is historically inaccurate,
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>antisemitic<
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>[84]<
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid#_note-Pulzer
>>     
>>> propaganda,
>>>       
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>[83]<
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid#_note-Adam>and
>> a
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>political
>> epithet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_epithet>used to justify
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>terrorist attacks
>> against Israel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism>.
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>[85]<
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid#_note-Phillips>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>
>> -------
>> For one thing the sentence states as fact that the term "Israeli
>> apartheid"
>> is "*historically inaccurate,
>> *antisemitic<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism>
>>   <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>, propaganda,
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>and a
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>political
>> epithet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_epithet>used to justify
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>terrorist attacks
>> against Israel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism>.
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>" something a
>> wikipedia article should not be asserting. Secondly the paragaraph is not
>> neutral and strongly weighted with the view that Israeli apartheid is not
>> an
>> acceptable term.
>>
>> Several editors have attempted to correct this paragraph's bias but they
>> have been blocked by a larger number of determined editors pushing a POV
>> against the term.
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