[WikiEN-l] Office actions

[Thomas Dalton]

> > I would recommend protection or semi-protection at this point, but with
> > the idea that even if protected admins are (as compared to normal
> > protection) actually encouraged to come help with the article.
> >
>
> Admins have rather a lot of other things to do. Admin only editing of
> articles does not strike me as a good idea. In theory at least when it
> comes to editing we are all equal.

Jimbo said protection *or semi-protection*. Perhaps more OFFICE
articles should be semi-protected, rather than protected.

> I don't think it is a good idea to get into the habit of removing well
> cited information

Indeed. A balanced article isn't one that has the same number of good
points as bad points. It's one that has a ratio of good points to bad
points that accurately represents how good/bad the subject is (yes,
it's not our job to decide is someone is a good person or not, but we
don't need to, if we do our research properly and cite everything
properly, we'll get the right ratio without having to decide what that
ratio is). An article on a convicted murderer is going to have mainly
bad points, that's perfectly balanced. An article on an
uncontroversial charity worker will have mainly good points, that's
perfectly balanced.

If there are far more bad points than good points in an article, and
the bad points are all well cited, then there are two possibilities.
Either the subject is simply bad, in which case the article is fine,
or the article is missing some good points, in which case they should
be added. I can't see any reason for a well cited bad point to be
removed.

> > Perhaps good contributors who respect WP:OFFICE think "Gee, trouble
> > here, I will just stay out of the way"... and then nothing happens.
> >
>
> Can you blame them?

Especially not when [[WP:OFFICE]] says:

"The following pages are currently under full Office protection and
full page protection and must not be edited by anyone not explicitly
authorised to do so."

>From following this thread, I think what that means is the article
should be edited on a temporary subpage and then get explicit
authorisation to move the subpage to the main page. If that's what's
intended, it should be made clearer.