[WikiEN-l] Office actions
bbatsell
wikipedia at theskeptik.com
Thu Dec 14 20:25:44 UTC 2006
On Dec 14, 2006, at 2:13 PM, Guy Chapman aka JzG wrote:
> Let me just start by saying that I am completely in favour of
> [[WP:OFFICE]] (I for one have no intention of paying the legal bills
> we would undoubtedly incur if we had no such system in place).
>
> But...
>
> Take for example Pacific Western University. This is a verifiably
> unaccredited school, there are numerous credible reports in the press
> about people being disciplined after claiming its degrees, it is not
> in the accreditation database, it is listed in several sources as a
> diploma mill. A university it ain't.
>
> Here's a typical example of external coverage:
> http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?
> res=9B0DE1D81E30F937A15754C0A961948260
>
> Look up the "unaccredited correspondence school" in the press report
> and you get an article on what appears to be a legitimate school
> offering various degree programmes. No mention of accreditation.
>
> The article was stubbed and OFFICEd, no doubt in response to
> complaints from the school or its alumni. No problem with that, the
> history sows some, ahem, problematic content. But well over a month
> ago I asked Danny if we could at least add {{unaccredited}}. No
> response.
>
> Where is the mechanism for review and feedback in respect of OFFICEd
> pages? I can't find any. Should I be bold, ignore all rules and add
> {{subst:unaccredited}} in the lead, as I have done for every other
> unaccredited school article I've found being whitewashed by its
> students? Right now we provide a directory entry for an institution
> multiply identified as a diploma mill, which makes no mention
> whatsoever even of the trivially verifiable fact of its being
> unaccredited. Doesn't look good, does it?
The procedures w.r.t. [[WP:OFFICE]] should be more fully fleshed
out. But looking at what we do have in this case, in particular the
[[WP:OFFICE]] template, the text says this: "This page is currently
under the scrutiny of the Wikimedia Foundation Office and is
protected. **If you are able to edit this page, please discuss all
changes and additions on the talk page first.** Do not remove
protection from this article unless you are authorized by the
Wikimedia Foundation to do so."
From that, I think it's fair for administrators to edit the page as
long as the changes are factual and discussed on the talk page first,
which I assume are monitored at least partly by Danny or someone else
at the Foundation, who could throw the axe down on an edit that might
affect the Foundation legally.
My $0.02.
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