[WikiEN-l] Hello

[The Cunctator]

On 12/12/06, Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Here are some examples, my main argument and a proposal:
>
> When I began contributing to Wikipedia, there was a Category ³Suicides².
> If
> a person¹s article stated they committed suicide, the category, ³Suicides²
> would be included. If this person had committed suicide by using a
> firearm,
> the Category, ³Suicides by firearm² would be also be included. In this
> case
> the Category, ³Deaths by firearm² would also be included. In this way, the
> researcher can call up, individually, all persons in the encyclopedia who
> had committed suicide. Then, if they chose, they could also call up
> separate
> lists of those who committed suicide by firearm, and a separate list of
> all
> persons who died by firearm. This was wonderful for the researcher.
>
> Then, I began finding many of my edits being reverting by persons who
> stated
> that only one of these Categories should be included in an article; that
> both a main category and a subcategory should not be in the same article.
> More and more of these articles were being diluted by this argument.
>
> I have been in constant conflict with some who state that it is not only
> redundant to enter a single Article into both Categories; it is actually
> against Wikipedia policy. At present, if I enter John Doe into the
> ŒSuicides
> by firearm¹ Category only, he does not appear in the ŒDeaths by firearm¹
> Category list. Consequently, if I want to call up all persons in the
> encyclopedia who have died by firearm, I must call up all the subcategory
> lists and collate them myself.
>
> Another example: Jane Doe dies from breast cancer. Category: ³Deaths from
> breast cancer² is added to her Category box, but I do not include the
> Category: ³Cancer deaths². Then, when I click on the ŒCategory: Deaths
> from
> breast cancer¹, her name is included in this list. But, if I click on the
> ŒCategory: Cancer deaths¹ she is not included.
>
> What I am wanting by adding her name to both Categories is a separate list
> of ALL persons who died from breast cancer, and a separate list of ALL
> persons who died from cancer. What is the problem with including the same
> Article in both a Main Category and a Subcategory?


It pretty much defeats the purpose of having subcategories.

By putting an article into a subcategory, you are effectively putting it
into the parent category.

Maybe we should figure out a way to make that more obvious.