[WikiEN-l] Citation templates s__k

Luna lunasantin at gmail.com
Mon Dec 11 21:46:37 UTC 2006


Huh -- is there a good reason to split first and last into seperate
parameters, in that case? I'm not sure why we couldn't just use a single
parameter for the name. Maybe I'm missing something, though.

On 12/11/06, Daniel P. B. Smith <wikipedia2006 at dpbsmith.com> wrote:
>
> > From: "Steve Bennett" <stevagewp at gmail.com>
>
> > The benefit of storing citations in a semantically marked up format
> > (such as the cite templates) should be self-evident. The fact that
> > this is difficult to achieve at the present without producing
> > unreadable wikitext is a problem - but it doesn't mean we should
> > abandon the goal of maintaning references at a high level.
>
> Agree, absolutely, but I'd certainly like to see a whole lot of
> improvement. This is an area where I think there could be a lot of
> technical fixes.
>
> I use the "cite book" template a lot.
>
> It's a mess.
>
> About half the time, I have no clue what to enter for "first=" and
> "last=". I type in something, anything, that makes the formatted
> citation have a reasonable _appearance_, but the semantics are all
> wrong.
>
> --What if the author has a middle name or initial? What if the author
> customarily is known only by initials and surname?
>
> First=Katharine Anne|Last=Porter?
> First=H. G.|Last=Wells?
>
> --What if the author has an honorific or other prefix or suffix?
>
> First=Roy|Last=Blount Jr.?
> First=Dr. Phil|Last=McGraw?
> First=Isidore|Last=Rosenfeld, M.D.?
>
> --What if the book has no "authors" as such, only editors?
>
> Title=The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language|
> First=Editors|last=of the American Heritage Dictionaries?
> Title=The Norton Anthology of American Literature|First=M. H.|
> Last=Abrams (General Editor)?
>
>
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