[WikiEN-l] The vexed issue of sources

James Hare messedrocker at gmail.com
Sat Dec 9 14:17:04 UTC 2006


In order for information not to be original research, it has to be
published. That's why visiting the college and finding out for yourself
unfortunately constitutes original research.

On 12/9/06, Daniel P. B. Smith <wikipedia2006 at dpbsmith.com> wrote:
>
> > From: "The Cunctator" <cunctator at gmail.com>
> >
> > On 12/8/06, Daniel P. B. Smith <wikipedia2006 at dpbsmith.com> wrote:
> >>> From: "The Cunctator" <cunctator at gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>
> >>> If someone says that in Episode X of Show Y this happened, I can't
> >>> imagine
> >>> why I wouldn't believe it.
> >>>
> >>> And I can imagine any number of ways by which if I *had* to I could
> >>> verify
> >>> such claim, including going to the production company or the
> >>> Museum of
> >>> Television and Radio or asking on craigslist to view such episode.
> >>
> >> If someone (e.g. 68.80.254.34) says:
> >>
> >> "Third floor of College Hall at Penn has an Episcopalian Chapel. On
> >> the wall states that Penn was founded by the Anglican Church of
> >> England. Go there and read it," would you say that "I can't imagine
> >> why I wouldn't believe it?"
> >>
> >> Anyone _could_ travel to Philadelphia and visit College Hall. Does
> >> that make the fact verifiable?
> >
> > Yes.
>
> It seems to me, then, that
>
> --you have a different definition of "verifiable" than Wikipedia
> currently has;
>
> --you do not accept the current verifiability policy;
>
> --you believe that information based solely on the personal testimony
> of an individual Wikipedian is acceptable content.
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