[WikiEN-l] The vexed issue of sources

The Cunctator cunctator at gmail.com
Fri Dec 8 21:27:32 UTC 2006


On 12/8/06, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > How does that follow? And the goalposts are moving -- just because there
> > aren't commercially available copies doesn't make watching a copy of a
> show
> > illegal, much as the recording industry would like it to be so.
> >
> > See Betamax v. Universal<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._v._Universal_City_Studios>
>
> You can make copies for personal use, showing them to anyone else
> would be illegal.


That's not true.


We can't rely on people having seen the show or
> recorded it themselves when it was originally aired.





> Again, what "illegal copies"?
>
> I'm not sure I understand the question... The only copies you can get
> hold of after a show airs and before it is released on DVD are
> illegal.


That is not true.


> Obviously someone is accessing the sources. You have a strange definition
> of
> > "no-one".
>
> Yes, they accessed them once when it was shown on TV. Saying that
> people having seen in on TV counts as verifying it would be like
> saying you can cite "People seeing him outside the supermarket" as the
> source of the fact that a certain celebrity shops there on the grounds
> that anyone that was at the supermarket on that day can verify it.



Again, people do record shows. Perfectly legally.

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