[WikiEN-l] The vexed issue of sources

Daniel P. B. Smith wikipedia2006 at dpbsmith.com
Fri Dec 8 11:04:37 UTC 2006


With respect to sources for Star Trek episodes: how did the  
contributing editors have access to those episodes?

I've said before and still feel that if the episodes are available on  
commercially purchasable videos, they have been "published" in a way  
that is comparable to a print book.

So I believe that movie and TV episodes should be referenced to  
published DVDs, _with proper identification_ (ASIN number or  
publisher and catalog number) and _the time, to the minute_ at which  
the line of dialog or event occurs.

Citations (with page numbers for print sources, or timings for video)  
serve two related purposes. First, if you do not actually plan to  
verify the citation, the fact that a timing is supplied is evidence  
(assuming good faith) that the contributing editor consulted the  
source rather than relying on memory. Second, if you do wish to  
verify the citation, it means that once you have obtained a copy of  
the source you can verify the citation with a reasonable amount of work.

A typical print book that is in print can be purchased for a modest  
but not negligible sum and can be acquired in days to weeks. In or  
out of print, depending on its obscurity, it may be available in a  
few hours at a local public library, available in days through  
interlibrary loan, or available only in big research libraries.

In most cases the amount of money and time required to access a DVD  
is comparable.

If the episode has _not_ been published on commercial videos, then  
IMHO it is not verifiable. Of course, published print sources that  
describe the episode are fine.



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