[WikiEN-l] Introducing a new mailing list

[The Cunctator]

On 12/6/06, Phil Sandifer <Snowspinner at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Dec 6, 2006, at 12:25 AM, Steve Bennett wrote:
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> > On 12/5/06, Alphax (Wikipedia email) <alphasigmax at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Personally, like others, I'm slightly saddened that there is a need
> >>> for this. However, there *being* a need for it, satisfying that need
> >>> is the right thing to do. Hopefully one day the list will disband
> >>> from
> >>> lack of use.
> >>>
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> >> ... whoa. Care to rephrase that?
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> > Hopefully one day the women in the Wikipedia community will no longer
> > feel threatened on the main list, and will thus not need their own
> > list. That is, if their list is a cure, I hope the ailment goes away.
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> Well put. Allow me to briefly put my gender privilege to good use and
> to engage in some of the flaming that Tim Starling has observed that
> I, as a male, am apparently more likely to enjoy.
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> I have never been so disgusted with this community as I am right now,
> and particularly with Greg and The Cunctator, both users I have in
> the past had tremendous respect for. Greg's public shunning of the
> idea of gendered discussion and The Cunctator's stunt of subscribing
> to the list so he could play martyr were bald-faced power moves that
> had no content other than sending a clear message to female
> contributors that they'd better not get out of line. They were
> shameful power plays. And if anyone fails to understand why that is,
> I can only say that you are why this list needs to exist, and why it
> needs to be female-only.


I think you misunderstood my motives and actions entirely.

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> Why is the list not open to men? Because there are men like The
> Cunctator and Greg, who are happy to declare that they know how
> discrimination should be talked about, and anybody who feels
> uncomfortable talking to them can go to hell.


When you start attacking me like this, you really better have evidence to
back it up.