[WikiEN-l] CITE nazis

[MacGyverMagic/Mgm]

Verifiability is a basic pillar of Wikipedia, so we should clearly cite less
than well known statements. There's enough stuff out there that's often
cited as fact when they're really as wrong as you can get. Only the most
easily verifiable stuff can go unsourced.

I think it's only deletionist when you delete such claims that could be true
instead of giving people the chance to verify it. Only when you can falsify
it, it can be removed.

It's a fine line, but yes one should remain civil and friendly, but that's
no reason to go easy on people that fail to adhere to policy. Sometimes a
little harsh action can go a long way in teaching.

Mgm

On 8/14/06, stevertigo <vertigosteve at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Im not exactly the most citatious Wikipedian, but nor do I have any
> tendency to make claims which arent easily verifiable. Over the years
> though Ive encountered a number of Wikipedians (I wont name names) who
> abuse or violate a clean interpretation of CIVIL by referring to CITE
> or V as a basis for what is essentially ownership of an article; in the
> form of a revert, rather than a constructive edit, correction, or (gasp!)
> a collaborative and helpful attempt to find a source.
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> Im not sure on the stats, but it is my impression that this demand for
> verifiability is 1) deletionistic 2) one sided, and not applied to one's
> own person and 3) comes with some attached notion of "reliable sources" by
> which material from any deemed "unreliable" sources can be deleted.
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> Thats the topic. Discuss.
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> Wikilove,
> -Stevertigo
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