[WikiEN-l] Indefinite block and desysopping by User:Danny

James D. Forrester james at jdforrester.org
Thu Apr 20 15:03:44 UTC 2006


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Ilmari Karonen wrote:

> Fred Bauder wrote:
>
> > Results vary when you complain, some problems are dealt with, some  
> > work themselves out, some are ignored, but I have never seen a  
> > vengeful or paranoid attitude from our central leadership.
> 
> Depends on who you count among the "central leadership", I suppose.  I'm 
> not trying to single her out here, but I was struct by the juxtaposition 
> of your comment above and a message just left by Kelly Martin (who seems 
> to be "in the know" on this current issue) at [[WP:1WW]:
> 
> | "... Eloquence deciding that he's entitled to unilaterally reverse 
> | without discussion a protection imposed by Danny, one of most trusted 
> | administrators. That was wheel warring. He deserves to be desysoped (and 
> | was desysoped, although that punishment, while originally imposed by 
> | Jimbo, was subsequently reversed by Jimbo for reasons that frankly make 
> | no sense to me) for that."
> 
> So, let's see:
> 
> * That nice hot-button word "unilaterally".  It wasn't more than a few 
> months ago when the unwashed hordes were screaming it at Kelly herself.

Ah, yes, but they were wrong. :-)

> * Desysoping (and prosumably blocking) are apparently now punitive, not 
> preventative.

It is a preventative measure against further actions which are to the
serious detriment of the Foundation.

> * "I am sure Erik will not do anything bad" frankly makes no sense to her.

The point is, I believe, that the term used in the statement is "do",
not "continue to do".

> I'm sorry to say this, but, all in all, that comment sounds pretty 
> nasty.  Maybe not "vengeful or paranoid", but certainly very stressed 
> out and high-handed, with a good amount of zero tolerance and "assume 
> bad faith" thrown in.  Maybe I'm reading too much into this paragraph, 
> but it sure sounds as if someone is in urgent need of a vacation here.

That's an intriguing line to take.

> I'd really like to know what caused all this

Evidently this isn't getting through. The reasons for such actions
normally cannot and certainly should not be revealed. I'd love to know
everything, too, but the answer is: "tough".

> Just another admin without all the pieces of the puzzle,

Indeed. Which is the exact point.

Yours sincerely,
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James D. Forrester
Wikimedia : [[W:en:User:Jdforrester|James F.]]
E-Mail    : james at jdforrester.org
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