[WikiEN-l] How does this prove voting is evil?
Daniel P. B. Smith
wikipedia2006 at dpbsmith.com
Tue Apr 11 10:05:22 UTC 2006
> On 4/10/06, Steve Bennett <stevage at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Just came across http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Georgia . It is
>> obvious beyond words to me that [[Georgia]] should be the country,
>> and
>> the US state should be at something like [[Georgia (US State)]].
>> However, an ongoing poll evenly ties between that, and keeping
>> Georgia
>> is a disambiguation page.
>>
>> I find this sad. :(
It is obvious that this particular issue is going to be
_contentious._ I don't know what proportion of Wikipedia users or
Wikipedia editors live in the United States, but it is large enough
to matter. Before the breakup of the Soviet Union, the existence of
Georgia, the SSR was almost unknown. Frankly, the only thing I knew
about it was that it was the Stalin's birthplace, and even that was
only because of a joking reference I'd heard to some politician:
("He's from Georgia? So was Stalin.).
Given that this issue is contentious, it's going to be hard to
settle. Straw polls are just one of a number of techniques for trying
to reach stability in an article. Unless it is clear that some other
technique _would_ have produced a clear, stable consensus and that
the straw poll is _preventing_ a consensus that would otherwise have
gelled, it doesn't prove polls are evil.
And since, no matter what the outcome is, anyone who types in
"Georgia" will quickly find what they are seeking, it doesn't matter
what the outcome is. Many of these article-naming debates seem to me
just to be arenas for people who enjoy trying to win arguments, and,
unlike edit wars, they are relatively harmless because the results
_do not matter_.
If Steve Bennett's argument is that polls are evil because ignorant
idiots who voted in the poll came up cast a majority of votes for
what is "obviously beyond words" the wrong answer, I don't buy it. A
majority vote for George W. Bush in a national U. S. election when it
is obvious beyond words that that is the wrong answer does not prove
that voting is evil. How's that for U.S.-centric for you? Pffpplsfft!
Our naming policy calls for the "most common" name, not the most
correct or most appropriate name. Arguments on geographic names are
always difficult to resolve because "most common among _whom_" is
somewhat undefined for Wikipedia. Unless you are going to suggest
that polls should be weighted to reflect what the outcome would be if
participation included proportional representation by every English-
speaking person in the world... that is, that Wikipedia should serve
what is ideally its potential audience rather than its real audience.
Non-rhetorical question: does the national makeup of readers differ
in proportion from the national makeup of active editors?
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