[WikiEN-l] request to Jimbo for out-of-process deletion of image

[Ray Saintonge]

Steve Block wrote:

>Katefan0 wrote:
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>>I think this is similar to what happens sometimes at pedophilia-related
>>articles.  For the most part, we as Wikipedians are drawn to edit articles
>>in which we have a personal interest or stake.  Naturally, then, those who
>>disagree with age of consent laws will be drawn to articles such as
>>[[NAMBLA]].  Not only do most other Wikipedians not feel drawn there, they
>>in fact would rather purposefully avoid them because they make them feel
>>icky.  (I can certainly attest to that personally.)  But in that manner, I
>>have found that sometimes the "consensus" on these types of articles gets
>>skewed.  And this makes issues raised on the talk page very difficult to
>>resolve.
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>I noted a while back at the pump that the article branch of requests for 
>comment wasn't serving it's purpose anymore, and that it should get 
>moved to the pump as [[Village pump (article)]].  Sadly, and a little 
>ironically, I got no discussion at the pump, and I'm starting to wonder 
>if the community is so big it is beginning to fracture.  There needs to 
>be a high profile way of grabbing editor attention and getting a 
>reflective consensus on issues.  I'm starting to agree with the idea of 
>a parliament or maybe an article arbitration commitee.  Any thoughts?
>
If I keep away from articles like [[NAMBLA]], being "icky" won't be my 
primary reason for doing so.  Most of us have our own interests to use 
up our time, without putting on hip-waders to grovel through a shit pile 
of time wasters.

I don't think that parliaments or new committees will do anything to 
accomplish what you want.  People who associate with such institutions 
tend to be POV pushers themselves;  these may be more socially 
acceptable POVs, but POVs nevertheless.

My own experience is that at different times I have made both quick 
one-liners, and detailed reflective comments.  The latter seldom 
receives replies at all.  You don't get reflective comments by 
"grabbing" editor attention.  Reflection is the antithesis of grabbed 
circumstances.

There are indeed problems associated with being so big.  For most of us 
this is an unaccustomed problem.  Is it too much of a cliché to say that 
we need to start thinking outside the box?

Ec