[WikiEN-l] Deleting the Lolicon picture

Philip Welch wikipedia at philwelch.net
Thu Apr 6 17:53:15 UTC 2006


On Apr 6, 2006, at 1:27 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote:

>> Not to belabor this meta-debate, but it's a simple matter of
>> historical fact that communists have committed large-scale mass
>> murder. Tacit implications that communism is "okay" is as offensive
>> to many people as implying that fascism is "okay". Since neither
>> question is of direct relevance here, let's just agree, for the sake
>> of avoiding conflict, not to say nice things about controversial
>> political ideologies.
>>
> But I was not the one to introduce communism into the discussion  
> with an
> offensive comment.

Nor was I.

> Now, in a pretence of innocence, you admonish those
> who would say "nice" things about controversial political ideologies,
> but do not apply the same standards to those who wouild say offensive
> thingsa about the same ideologies.

Ideally we should drop the subject entirely.

> Then you want to drop the issue when
> you feel that you are ahead in the damage.  The historical fact that
> some communists have committed large-scale mass murder does not  
> justify
> your innuendo that all supporters of a communistic economy have  
> done so.

We could say the same thing about fascism, but you don't find anyone  
playing apologist for *that* ideology.

> To whatever extent I feel that communism may be "okay" I can express
> myself directly; I don't need to rely on tacit offensive implications.
> I know that this site abounds with anti-communist ideologues, and I  
> can
> keep busy enough in unrelated areas without needing to actively  
> promote
> ideologies.  Be that as it may, I won't be bullied, and I feel quite
> justified in rising to the occasion when someone trolls the list  
> with an
> ignorant comment.

As do I.

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Philip L. Welch
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