[WikiEN-l] Deleting the Lolicon picture
Jimmy Wales
jwales at wikia.com
Tue Apr 4 01:43:29 UTC 2006
Bravo! We can have a serious discussion of the photo without it on the
site.
Sam Korn wrote:
> I have just deleted Image:Hikari Hayashibara Manga.jpg. It was an
> image of a young girl, her bottom exposed, holding a teddy bear with
> BDSM armcuffs and a strap-on dildo (not my description...).
>
> This image bad in two main ways:
>
> 1) It is grossly inappropriate. It is a poor reflection on
> Wikipedia's goals and would serve our detractors. We wave "no
> censorship" around to justify outrageous images. This image is
> extremely harmful to Wikipedia's progression to build an
> encyclopaedia.
>
> 2) The fair use claim is extremely dubious. IANAL, but it seems
> generally accepted that there must be reference to the picture in the
> text to justify its inclusion. That is not present here. This image
> is harmful to Wikipedia's progression as a free encyclopaedia.
>
> It doesn't seem hard to fathom that this image has a huge potential to
> harm Wikipedia. We should, at this point, ask whether the image
> justifies this. Can the article be understood without the image?
> Undoubtedly yes. Can a determined reader find an example if the image
> is deleted? Undoubtedly yes. Does the benefit of including this
> picture, as opposed to any other lolicon pictures on Wikipedia,
> outweigh the potential it has to harm Wikipedia? Undoubtedly no.
>
> The image deletion process has shown itself incapable of removing this
> image. The process is demonstrably broken when there is a hint of
> controversy. I don't take stepping outside accepted policy and
> process lightly. Here, however, it is absolutely right and absolutely
> necessary.
>
> I apologise to any who see my actions as outrageously rogue-ish. I
> wish there were an alternative, less radical way.
>
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