[WikiEN-l] Deleting the Lolicon picture

Jimmy Wales jwales at wikia.com
Tue Apr 4 01:43:29 UTC 2006


Bravo!  We can have a serious discussion of the photo without it on the
site.


Sam Korn wrote:
> I have just deleted Image:Hikari Hayashibara Manga.jpg.  It was an
> image of a young girl, her bottom exposed, holding a teddy bear with
> BDSM armcuffs and a strap-on dildo (not my description...).
> 
> This image bad in two main ways:
> 
> 1) It is grossly inappropriate.  It is a poor reflection on
> Wikipedia's goals and would serve our detractors.  We wave "no
> censorship" around to justify outrageous images.  This image is
> extremely harmful to Wikipedia's progression to build an
> encyclopaedia.
> 
> 2) The fair use claim is extremely dubious.  IANAL, but it seems
> generally accepted that there must be reference to the picture in the
> text to justify its inclusion.  That is not present here.  This image
> is harmful to Wikipedia's progression as a free encyclopaedia.
> 
> It doesn't seem hard to fathom that this image has a huge potential to
> harm Wikipedia.  We should, at this point, ask whether the image
> justifies this.  Can the article be understood without the image? 
> Undoubtedly yes.  Can a determined reader find an example if the image
> is deleted?  Undoubtedly yes.  Does the benefit of including this
> picture, as opposed to any other lolicon pictures on Wikipedia,
> outweigh the potential it has to harm Wikipedia?  Undoubtedly no.
> 
> The image deletion process has shown itself incapable of removing this
> image.  The process is demonstrably broken when there is a hint of
> controversy.  I don't take stepping outside accepted policy and
> process lightly.  Here, however, it is absolutely right and absolutely
> necessary.
> 
> I apologise to any who see my actions as outrageously rogue-ish.  I
> wish there were an alternative, less radical way.
> 
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