[WikiEN-l] Deleting the Lolicon picture

[Fred Bauder]

I fully support this deletion. It is occasional lapses like this,  
which while arguably "legal", give some substance to the bogus claim  
that Wikipedia panders to pedophiles.

Fred

On Apr 3, 2006, at 12:18 PM, Sam Korn wrote:

> I have just deleted Image:Hikari Hayashibara Manga.jpg.  It was an
> image of a young girl, her bottom exposed, holding a teddy bear with
> BDSM armcuffs and a strap-on dildo (not my description...).
>
> This image bad in two main ways:
>
> 1) It is grossly inappropriate.  It is a poor reflection on
> Wikipedia's goals and would serve our detractors.  We wave "no
> censorship" around to justify outrageous images.  This image is
> extremely harmful to Wikipedia's progression to build an
> encyclopaedia.
>
> 2) The fair use claim is extremely dubious.  IANAL, but it seems
> generally accepted that there must be reference to the picture in the
> text to justify its inclusion.  That is not present here.  This image
> is harmful to Wikipedia's progression as a free encyclopaedia.
>
> It doesn't seem hard to fathom that this image has a huge potential to
> harm Wikipedia.  We should, at this point, ask whether the image
> justifies this.  Can the article be understood without the image?
> Undoubtedly yes.  Can a determined reader find an example if the image
> is deleted?  Undoubtedly yes.  Does the benefit of including this
> picture, as opposed to any other lolicon pictures on Wikipedia,
> outweigh the potential it has to harm Wikipedia?  Undoubtedly no.
>
> The image deletion process has shown itself incapable of removing this
> image.  The process is demonstrably broken when there is a hint of
> controversy.  I don't take stepping outside accepted policy and
> process lightly.  Here, however, it is absolutely right and absolutely
> necessary.
>
> I apologise to any who see my actions as outrageously rogue-ish.  I
> wish there were an alternative, less radical way.
>
> --
> Sam
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