[WikiEN-l] Deleting the Lolicon picture
MacGyverMagic/Mgm
macgyvermagic at gmail.com
Mon Apr 3 19:05:42 UTC 2006
I now I'm home I checked the article and noticed a free image was put
in its place.
Forget what I said in that last mail. I should've checked first.
Mgm
On 4/3/06, MacGyverMagic/Mgm <macgyvermagic at gmail.com> wrote:
> If a free image is substituted instead of having the space sit empty,
> Sam will have my support. Having at least "an" image on there will
> dampen the spirits of those who want to yell and scream bloody murder
> over its deletion.
>
> On 4/3/06, Sydney Poore <poore5 at adelphia.net> wrote:
> > It is reasonable and I will support you. The image has not been used
> > correctly on the article. No text describing the image. And a free image
> > should be used. I've written this multiple times on the article talk and
> > the image deletion page.
> >
> > Sydney aka FloNight
> >
> >
> >
> > Sam Korn wrote:
> > > I have just deleted Image:Hikari Hayashibara Manga.jpg. It was an
> > > image of a young girl, her bottom exposed, holding a teddy bear with
> > > BDSM armcuffs and a strap-on dildo (not my description...).
> > >
> > > This image bad in two main ways:
> > >
> > > 1) It is grossly inappropriate. It is a poor reflection on
> > > Wikipedia's goals and would serve our detractors. We wave "no
> > > censorship" around to justify outrageous images. This image is
> > > extremely harmful to Wikipedia's progression to build an
> > > encyclopaedia.
> > >
> > > 2) The fair use claim is extremely dubious. IANAL, but it seems
> > > generally accepted that there must be reference to the picture in the
> > > text to justify its inclusion. That is not present here. This image
> > > is harmful to Wikipedia's progression as a free encyclopaedia.
> > >
> > > It doesn't seem hard to fathom that this image has a huge potential to
> > > harm Wikipedia. We should, at this point, ask whether the image
> > > justifies this. Can the article be understood without the image?
> > > Undoubtedly yes. Can a determined reader find an example if the image
> > > is deleted? Undoubtedly yes. Does the benefit of including this
> > > picture, as opposed to any other lolicon pictures on Wikipedia,
> > > outweigh the potential it has to harm Wikipedia? Undoubtedly no.
> > >
> > > The image deletion process has shown itself incapable of removing this
> > > image. The process is demonstrably broken when there is a hint of
> > > controversy. I don't take stepping outside accepted policy and
> > > process lightly. Here, however, it is absolutely right and absolutely
> > > necessary.
> > >
> > > I apologise to any who see my actions as outrageously rogue-ish. I
> > > wish there were an alternative, less radical way.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sam
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> > Sydney Poore
> >
> > Go Bengals!
> >
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