[WikiEN-l] What Readers Say on Inclusion

Keith Old keithold at gmail.com
Sun Oct 23 03:13:11 UTC 2005


Anthony,

Most of the users who edit musical articles do so on established acts.
Further, assuming that we had these fans, there is little verifiable
material available to base articles on.

Generally, garage bands and other unsigned acts:


   - have no band website or page on a record company website;
    - have no articles on Allmusic.com <http://Allmusic.com> or other
   online musical reference materials;
   - attract little if any interest from the music media such as Rolling
   Stone, NME, MTV or Billboard;
   - attract little if any interest from general media such as radio,
   newspapers etc; and
   - musical acts generally have to be well-known to feature in books.

By the time, most acts have verifiable material available about them, they
tend to meet our musical guidelines outlined on WP:MUSIC. Most of the
articles on garage bands and other unknown acts are prepared by band members
or others with close links to the band/act and are unverifiable.

Regards



Keith

On 10/23/05, Anthony DiPierro <wikispam at inbox.org> wrote:
>
> On 10/22/05, geni <geniice at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 10/23/05, Anthony DiPierro <wikispam at inbox.org> wrote:
> > > Who's going to create these million articles on garage bands? With
> > 100,000
> > > new garage band fans creating them we'll have no problem maintaining a
> > > million articles on garage bands. I think realistically it'll be at
> > least a
> > > couple orders of magnitude smaller in both figures, but as long as we
> > don't
> > > allow automated creation of these articles the resources to maintain
> the
> > > articles will scale right along with the creation of them.
> > > Anthony
> >
> > You assume that the people who create these articles:
> > a)stick around
> > b)know all the wikimarkup and stuff
> >
> >
> > --
> > geni
>
>
> I assume that a good portion of them will, yes. I think this is what
> happens
> when you treat contributors with gratitude and a helping hand rather than
> accusing them of self-promotion and deleting their contributions.
>
> I make the assumption that most contributors, even those that happen to be
> interested in garage bands, are acting in good faith. I make the
> assumption
> that if you give people the tools and the freedom to create good articles
> they're going to do so. Maybe you think that's a crazy idea, but if so I
> find it hard to understand why you believe in the crazy idea of building a
> website that anyone can edit.
>
> Anthony
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