[WikiEN-l] Afd nominations

[Philip Sandifer]

On Oct 3, 2005, at 12:20 PM, grm_wnr wrote:

> Bryan Derksen wrote:
>
>
>> So really, most of these "non-notability" issues shouldn't ever be  
>> brought to VfD in the first place - just merge them into main  
>> articles, like that traffic circle case from a few days back, and  
>> let the wiki process determine whether the merge was adequate or  
>> not. If peoples' beef is really with the _information_ being in  
>> Wikipedia, that's also something that can be sorted out via the  
>> wiki process - articles get trimmed and streamlined and split into  
>> sub-articles all the time without going through a voting process.
>>
>
> That's so true it isn't even funny. It also makes one think if it  
> really would be all that bad if AfD was just shut down for a month  
> like David Gerard proposed.  I personally think that merging an  
> article isn't all that more complicated than setting up an AfD, if  
> you see setting up an AfD as more than writing "nn v -~~~~". Your  
> mileage may vary, of course.
>

One of the things I found in my hunt through AfDs for invalid  
nominations and speedies was that there was a very, very small  
portion of the 117 articles I looked through that needed to be there.  
15 or so should have been slam dunk keeps, or at least merges.  
Another good chunk were speedies. An equally large chunk, however,  
were, if not speedies, at least things that any sensible person who  
watches AfD for a day or two could determine the result of in  
advance. If we add "verifiability" as a speedy criterion, the number  
that could be speedied goes to around 85%, I think.

Which is to say, the number of articles on a day that actually need  
to go to AfD on a day is incredibly small. In reality, only probably  
five or six articles a day need out and out deletion debates. Which  
would in turn help AfD stop being a vote and start being a discussion.

But apparently moving in this direction gets you RfCed with an  
intention of being taken to the arbcom, so there's some logistical  
problems to work out, it seems.

-Snowspinner