[WikiEN-l] Re: Webcomics/Deletion again

[JAY JG]

>From: Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net>
>
>JAY JG wrote:
>
>>Sean, I'm very rarely on AfD, but from what I've seen (and what others 
>>have said here) the AfD appears to make reasonable decisions 95-98% 
>>percent of the time - it's the last 2-5% of controversial decisions that 
>>are causing all the angst here, combined with concern over a "poisonous 
>>atmosphere" on the page.
>>
>>The page deals with over 100 articles a day, so it's easy enough to find 
>>examples of bad decisions.  However, no system is perfect, and the 
>>error-rate at AfD does not appear to be particularly unreasonable for a 
>>human intensive process working under fairly loose guidelines.  It 
>>certainly has not been demonstrated that the any other system would have a 
>>lower error rate.  Furthermore, it should be kept in mind that "hard cases 
>>make bad law".  Finally, as has been pointed out by Tony, AfD itself has a 
>>limited capacity, so the overall "harm" it can do Wikipedia, at least in 
>>terms of articles deleted in error (or, for that matter, kept in error), 
>>is miniscule.
>
>Your ratio of controversial articles seems about right.  The problem is in 
>the tenacity with which controversial deletions are protected.  No damage 
>would be done by allowing the controversial ones more time, or allowing 
>them to be easily undeleted for further discussion for as long as it takes.

So what you're suggesting is that AfD simply needs to be modified a little 
to allow longer decision periods for, say, articles in the 65-75% delete 
range, and that the rules for VfU need to be loosened somewhat?  These don't 
seem to me to be insurmountable obstacles, or indications of a completely 
broken process.

By the way, my (admittedly limited) experience in this area tells me that 
articles voted for deletion often take many more than 5 days to be deleted, 
and that many VfU nominations consist of disgruntled article authors 
complaining that "my article is the truth, you're just censoring the 
truth!!!"

Jay.