[WikiEN-l] 72-hour block
Fred Bauder
fredbaud at ctelco.net
Thu Jul 28 13:04:55 UTC 2005
Please take this to dispute resolution after your block. Right or
wrong this kind of disruptive struggle and revert warring is no good.
Calm down and take it to dispute resolution. Jtdirl may be in the
wrong also, but I have not considered that here.
Fred
On Jul 27, 2005, at 10:46 PM, Lapsed Pacifist wrote:
> Hi. My user name is Lapsed Pacifist, and my IP is 159.134.233.225.
> I'm sorry to say I've been here before, the last time things were
> resolved amicably. I've been blocked for 3 days by Jtdirl, and I
> believe this administrator is in breach of Wikipedia policy as
> outlined on Wikipedia:Blocking policy, specifically: "blocks should
> not be used...against user accounts that make a mixture of
> disruptive and useful edits" and "users should not block those with
> whom they are currently engaged in conflict." I don't agree that my
> edits are disruptive, but even if this administrator does, my
> contentious entries are easily outnumbered by hundreds of others,
> and this administrator and I are currently disagreeing on different
> matters.
>
> The first three of the six points of the recommended procedure on
> the Wikipedia:Controversial blocks article read:
>
> 1. Check the facts with care.
> 2. Reread appropriate parts of Wikipedia:Blocking policy.
> 3. If possible, contact other administrators informally to be sure
> there are others who agree with your reasoning. The administrators'
> noticeboard, IRC and email are effective tools for this.
>
> I will go through Jtdirl's entries on my talk page and comment in
> parentheses where I feel it is appropriate.
>
>
> last warning
> Your behaviour on Wikipedia has gone beyond the bounds of what can
> be tolerated. You are engaging in widespread reverts to insert
> blatently POV language [this is a reference to the use of the terms
> "Northern Ireland" and "six counties" and there was a long debate
> on Talk:Articles 2 and 3 of the Constitution of Ireland about this]
> into articles. But for the fact that you were once a credible
> editor here you would have been blocked long before now for your
> behaviur, but you have used up all the previous goodwill that
> existed towards you in your recent behaviour. Please stop. If you
> continue, you will be subject to a long block for this behaviour.
> This is your final warning. Please heed it.
>
> FearÉIREANN\(caint) 21:55, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
>
> Because you have continued, despite repeated warnings, to wage edit
> wars [this would be difficult on my own] and reverts to push your
> political agenda [I strongly dispute this last comment], and
> because as soon as you came back from your last block you started
> back on your old behaviour on many of the same pages, you have now
> been blocked for 3 days. If when you come back you continue to
> behave as you have been doing you may face a far lengthier block.
> FearÉIREANN\(caint) 02:57, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
>
> [There now follows a list of 34 edits, all whole or partial
> reverts. 16 are mine. The first 10 mostly concern a dispute on
> whether election results in Northern Ireland should be included in
> a paragraph attempting to construe the political aspirations of
> Northern Ireland's population, and the prominence of a survey on
> the region's future. The rest are about the nomenclature of the
> region.]
>
> [edit]
> Just some of the evidence of constant reverting of articles
> (cur) (last) 03:33, 28 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (rv blanking; 59
> out of 108 is slight)
> (cur) (last) 17:35, 27 July 2005 JW1805 (rvt. Once again, 59% is
> not a "slight" majority)
> (cur) (last) 10:53, 27 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (rv blanking)
> (cur) (last) 00:02, 27 July 2005 JW1805 (rvt attempt to obscure
> poll results)
> (cur) (last) 23:36, 26 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (Revert edits by
> Timrollpickering to last version by Lapsed Pacifist)
> (cur) (last) 14:14, 26 July 2005 Timrollpickering m (Reverted edits
> by Lapsed Pacifist to last version by Timrollpickering)
> (cur) (last) 10:25, 26 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (rv; That's why
> it's mentioned. Why the other changes?)
> (cur) (last) 13:58, 25 July 2005 Timrollpickering (Revert on poll -
> the question is more clear cut than an election - see talk page;
> wikify links)
> (cur) (last) 07:18, 25 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (Make a better
> case, Jonto)
> (cur) (last) 00:58, 25 July 2005 Jonto (Revert to version by
> JW1805. I disagree - I have outlined the reasons for polls on the
> talk page - Please discuss there first Zoney.)
> (cur) (last) 22:39, 27 July 2005 Djegan m (revert vandalism)
> (cur) (last) 22:32, 27 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (rv)
> (cur) (last) 10:00, 27 July 2005 Djegan m (revert)
> (cur) (last) 06:59, 27 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (rv; please write
> accurate edit summaries)
> (cur) (last) 22:30, 26 July 2005 Djegan m (revert sectanism and
> vandalism of LP)
> (cur) (last) 22:28, 26 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (rv NPOV)
> (cur) (last) 10:15, 26 July 2005 Demiurge m (rv POV term "six
> counties")
> (cur) (last) 08:22, 26 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (rv NPOV)
> (cur) (last) 09:53, 25 July 2005 Demiurge m (rv POV term "six
> counties")
> (cur) (last) 06:59, 25 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (rv needlessly
> simplistic edit)
> (cur) (last) 21:48, 24 July 2005 JW1805 m (rvt (corrected
> needlessly complex sentence structure))
> (cur) (last) 21:39, 24 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (rv needlessly
> simplistic edit)
> (cur) (last) 15:37, 24 July 2005 JW1805 m (corrected needlessly
> complex sentence structure)
> (cur) (last) 15:34, 24 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (rv; Restore context)
> (cur) (last) 04:57, 24 July 2005 JW1805 m (simplify sentence)
> (cur) (last) 04:08, 24 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (rv NPOV)
> (cur) (last) 00:00, 23 July 2005 Demiurge m (rv POV)
> (cur) (last) 23:48, 22 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (Revert edits by
> Djegan to last version by JavaJive)
> (cur) (last) 20:27, 22 July 2005 Djegan (revert sectanism and
> vandalism)
> (cur) (last) 20:20, 22 July 2005 JavaJive m (wikify date)
> (cur) (last) 19:06, 22 July 2005 Demiurge m (rv POV)
> (cur) (last) 17:37, 22 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (rv)
> (cur) (last) 10:14, 22 July 2005 Demiurge m (rv POV)
> (cur) (last) 05:18, 22 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (rv)
> In addition you have been adding in factual errors all over the
> place [I also strongly dispute this, and only the following
> inaccurate example is given]. It is hard to believe that calling
> the Irish state the Irish Free State years after you know very well
> it ceased to have that name, and was only called that by fringe
> republicans, is anything other than deliberate POV vandalism [I
> believe this is a reference to an edit summary on the Éamon de
> Valera article, when I reverted a change made by this user. The
> block came one minute after I did this. This is 2005, and the state
> is now known as th Republic of Ireland, but the edit concerned
> events in 1926, when that was the state's official name.], as is
> using Sinn Féin language [an obtuse reference to the naming debate]
> about the name of Northern Ireland when you know very well that
> Wikipedia cannot use that name for the northern state as it is POV.
> FearÉIREANN\(caint) 02:57, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
>
> Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> User_talk:Lapsed_Pacifist"
>
> The block, if it had to come, should have come from another
> administrator. This is my third block, my second by this user. On
> neither occasion did Jtdirl consult with other administrators
> before the blocks, unless it was by email. As well as wrongly
> accusing me of factual errors, this user has failed to check the
> facts e.g. the Free State comment. I believe this editor is in
> breach of parts of the blocking policy. I believe, from the
> comments made on my talk page, that this administrator has allowed
> emotion to overrule responsibility. I have not attempted to contact
> this user by email, partly because I do not expect a fair hearing
> there, partly because I would rather the block and the events
> surrounding it receive a wider audience, which is not available to
> me on any talk page at the moment. Sorry about the length of the
> mail, I am sure you have better things to do.
>
> LP
>
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