[WikiEN-l] Re: Hi

A. Nony Mouse temoforcomments4 at hotmail.com
Wed Jul 6 21:00:33 UTC 2005


Seems to be.

Happens all the time on Islam-related and Sex-relate articles all the time - 
the moment certain editors start an edit war and think they're going to get 
close to breaking 3RR, they start sending off messages to sympathetic 
editors asking them to join in the revert war.

It's also how we get most of the sockpuppet complaints - there are a number 
of users on Wikipedia whose first instinct when challenged is to scream that 
their opponent "must" be a sockpuppet of some other user who previously 
opposed them either on the same article or somewhere else.

And yes, for reference, 3RR does indeed essentially mean that if two editors 
decide an article should look a certain way, and only one opposes them, then 
the two editors "win" unless more editors come along or it winds up in 
Arbitration.

Yet another case of seemingly "neutral" policies being a disaster.

I hereby propose an alternate policy: Page-based 3RR. If the same phrase is 
reverted from a page three times in 24 hours, then that PAGE shall be locked 
for a week and all editors involved in the reverts shall receive a 12-hour 
block to cool off.

What do you think? I know it's not perfect (it still doesn't address WHICH 
version should be locked to, but that's a losing decision either way) but it 
gets us away from the current "hey if we get one more guy than they have 
then we can provoke an edit war, get them all 3RR blocked, and we're free 
and clear to make the article say what we want it to say" nonsense and into 
a more neutral stance.

A. Nony Mouse

>From: Skyring <skyring at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: Skyring <skyring at gmail.com>
>To: temoforcomments4 at hotmail.com
>Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Re: Hi
>Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 06:49:14 +1000
>
>"I should read the rules more closely. In that case I will revert you
>twice a day, for the rest of history if needs be. Plus I have more
>allies than you, so your attempts to restalinise this article must
>fail."
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AKhmer_Rouge&diff=14835971
>
>Is truth really determined by how many allies an editor has?
>
>This particular editor seems to be able to abuse other editors at
>will, with no more than an "admonition".

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