[WikiEN-l] more active censorship

Skyring skyring at gmail.com
Mon Jul 4 21:30:35 UTC 2005


On 7/5/05, JAY JG <jayjg at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >From: "Nathan J. Yoder" <njyoder at energon.org>
> >
> > > Well, that's not really accurate, but most blocked users can no longer
> >us a
> > > different Userid to avoid the block, precisely because Wikipedia blocks
> >the
> > > IP address when attempts are made to do this.  That wasn't the case
> >before
> > > the IP blocker was added.
> >
> >You're not listening at all.  I was editing only with my User:Njyoder
> >account, not a sock puppet nor logged out.  If you block a username, it
> >has _always_ been the case that that username can't edit.
> 
> Right.  This feature stops sockpuppet editing (at least for fixed IP
> addresses).

No it doesn't. The IP is already blocked. The IP address CANNOT edit.

> > > If only that were the case.  In practice, blocked editors edit all the
> >time;
> > > this simply stops the ones with fixed IP addresses from editing with
> > > sockpuppets.
> >
> >As stated above, it also renews it for non-sock puppets.  This is how
> >it currently works:
> >
> >1.  Admin blocks User:foo.
> >2.  User:foo logs in as User:foo.
> >3.  User:foo hits 'edit page.'
> >4.  User:foo block is renewed for another 24 hours.
> >
> >So what exactly is the purpose in reblocking the original account that
> >was already blocked to begin with?
> 
> Because the system can't tell whether you were trying to get around the
> block or simply doing something odd with no intent of actually editing when
> you hit the "edit" button.  What, again, was the net effect of this?  Your
> valid block was extended for a few more hours?

That's the point. You have just conceded that even if an editor was
"simply doing something odd with no intent of actually editing" the
block is extended for another 24 hours. Or a week or a month or
whatever.

I think that this is a bug. What do you think?

-- 
Peter in Canberra



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