[WikiEN-l] Re: alleged improper block of Tteexx

[Fred Bauder]

Creating a bogus article IS a serious offense. I doubt your ban is
permanent. Could you quote the message you receive when you try to log in so
we can check on what was done and the reason given?

Fred

> From: Stewart Pederson <stewped at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Stewart Pederson <stewped at gmail.com>, English Wikipedia
> <wikien-l at Wikipedia.org>
> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 07:57:08 -0900
> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at wikipedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Re: alleged improper block of Tteexx
> 
> Now I've been "permanently blocked" and my article removed.  You would
> think I was some sort of vandal.  True there is a similar style in
> several of the keep votes.  This is because I phoned several friends
> and colleagues to support this article.  Some didn't take it as
> seriously as others.
> 
> A couple people changed their vote because two different IPs (and two
> different keeps) both worked on the article.  This is true because
> there were TWO of us working on the article.  I'm being permanently
> banned for having an article you don't think is belivable and comments
> by friends of mine that are a bit silly?  Isn't that a bit extreme?
> 
> You can doubt the reseach and find it doesn't belong on wikipedia.
> But banning me from a single contribution is over the top and abusive.
> 
> Stewart Pederson
> 
> On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 08:18:19 -0500, Daniel P. B. Smith
> <dpbsmith at verizon.net> wrote:
>>> Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 17:30:43 -0900
>>> From: Stewart Pederson <stewped at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [WikiEN-l] Illegally Blocked user: Tteexx
>>> 
>>> Dear Wikipedia Folks,
>>> 
>>> I have been blocked for editing my article, and continuing to add
>>> information.  The article is currently a VfD candidate and the
>>> democratic process has been occuring until today.  The apparent reason
>>> for my block was that Neutrality assumes I am using multiple accounts?
>>> Or is it that he thinks my article is a hoax?  He also mentions the
>>> use of self-made images.  These images are related to the article and
>>> it shouldn't matter that I created them.  The information being
>>> presented is brand new research and though it may be deemed that it
>>> does not deserve a place on Wikipedia, I feel its unfair to block me,
>>> remove all images, and attempt to discredit me before the democratic
>>> process has completed.
>>> 
>>> Furthermore, the block policy states, "Use of blocks to gain advantage
>>> in a content dispute...", and since this is the only article that I
>>> have been editing, it would seem that this clearly is the case.  If
>>> you don't like the research, vote the delete it.  If you like it, vote
>>> to keep it.  Don't censor me from attempting to bring in other sources
>>> that help the article.
>>> 
>>> I have e-mailed Neutrality about this situation, and have yet to see a
>>> reply.  I would appreciate a valid reason with proof instead of
>>> assuming that all keep votes were done by me.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Stewart Pederson
>> 
>> Those interested in this matter should make a point of reading the
>> article itself, which for some reason this correspondent does not
>> mention. The article is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yopu , and the
>> VfD discussion is at
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Yopu .
>> 
>> The article, about an alleged Tibetan legend, says in part that "the
>> royal family decreed that human excrement was no longer to be used for
>> the fertilization of rice. This was done to ensure that no member of
>> royalty ever had to eat peasant poo." This created dissatisfaction, and
>> Yopu become the leader of the "Pu Rebellion."
>> 
>> Pressed to provide verifiable evidence that the legend exists, the
>> contributor responded with a single citation:
>> 
>> Lewinski and Manes. "Legends of Rural Tibet." The Journal of
>> Asian/Diasporic and Aboriginal Literature.
>> http://www.kuixing.panopticonasia.com/fall04/yopu.html. Fall 2004.
>> 
>> The URL yields a "404 not found." The site and the 115 messages in the
>> associated Yahoo group contain no references to Yopu, Lewinski, or
>> Manes. Although one portion of the site does refer to a first issue
>> being planned for "Spring 2004," another states that "The first of the
>> twice-yearly issues of Kui Xing will be available, conditions
>> permitting, in Spring 2005."
>> 
>> As I write this, if unsigned votes from anons are ignored, VfD is
>> currently running about 16 deletes, one "keep," and one "weak Keep,
>> until it is proven beyond doubt that it's a hoax." There are also about
>> eight "keeps," all posted from IP addresses with no previous edits and
>> all recognizably similar in style.
>> 
>> --
>> Daniel P. B. Smith, dpbsmith at verizon.net
>> 
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