[WikiEN-l] Re: A neo-Nazi wikipedia

Haukur Þorgeirsson haukurth at hi.is
Thu Aug 25 23:34:58 UTC 2005


I'd like to start by apologizing to Sarah for twice referring to her as
'Rachel' up-thread. I only just realized that. I have no excuse for this
carelessness. I'm sorry, Sarah.

- - -

Sarah wrote:

> This discussion is getting a little circular, stale, and off-topic.
> Anyone who wants me to unblock Amalekite should e-mail me. So far I've
> had e-mails supportive of the block, but not one from anyone thinking
> it should be overturned. If people e-mail me directly with their
> views, I'll have a better idea of community consensus, and then I can
> take it into account.

I have already petitioned you directly, in words as clear as I can manage,
to lift your block on User:Amalekite. I'm doing so again now.

I do not see any advantage in taking the discussion to private mail. On
the contrary I think it is most natural to keep this kind of decision
making and the associated arguments in the open. For one thing it gives us
recorded precedents to base future decisions on.

If the mailing list has grown tired of the topic we can relocate to a talk
page of your choice - though I would personally prefer to finish the
discussion here since it started here.

My arguments against keeping User:Amalekite blocked can be found in a
number of my previous posts to this list. Instead of going through them
all again I'd like to emphasize the following meta-argument.

It has become clear that there is no consensus for the ban of
User:Amalekite. At least five people (Michael, Jack, Matt, Lisa and
myself) have expressed their opposition to it in no uncertain terms.
Several other people have expressed some reservations or ambivalence
towards the action. In my opinion summary banning of an account is only
appropriate in the case of undisputed vandals and trolls. If it turns out
that a summarily banned user is not, in fact, an undisputed vandal/troll
the ban on him or her should be lifted.

Regards,
Haukur




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