[WikiEN-l] A minor point

El C el.ceeh at gmail.com
Thu Aug 25 07:07:21 UTC 2005


Greetings, WikiEN-l,

My point then (and so it remains now) was centred on what I termed
intrinsic/irreversible  properties, the distinction between the
inherent and inherited. The latter says: you may be sub-human now, but
you can convert to what I believe in and then be human, just-like-me.
The former says: you will *always* be sub-human, as an intrinsic trait
that cannot be reversed, you can't be just-like-me, ever.

There is an alarming tendency on the part of some participants in this
thread, I find; I will go further, a seemingly heartless and ugly
current, whose basis is intellectual lazyness at best, and an utterly
corrupt and morally bankrupt mindset at worse. The so-called moral
high ground of un-"principled" relativism. But before I'm banned from
the list on account of flaming (which I nonetheless am taking pains to
direct with a measure of moderation, though ambiguities will not save
me), I'll pause for a personal example from Wikipedia:

About two months ago or so I encountered an abusive editor who refused
to speak to me because, as he told me, and then all of WP:AN in a
notice he authored, that he does not, as a matter of principle, speaks
to homosexuals (at the event, I never made privy to him whether I was
even male or female to begin with, I was only reverting, warning, and
eventually banning him for homophobic hate speech on [[Iran]] -- the
user was defending the Islamic regime's policy on homosexuality and a
certain infamous execution of underage homosexuals in a very prolific
fashion, but I digress).

The user explained that he considers homosexuals, and later he added,
also Jews, to be lower than animals or something to that effect, etc.,
noting how he would "love to rid the world of gays and Jews."

Now, there was a certain vocal user, an established user, a user with
thousands of edits, who insisted that my actions were contrary to
policy and that I should have attempted to resolve my *differences*
with that abusive user (well, his proxies, since at that point he was
propogating his hate speech via block evasion) through the dispute
resolution process. This is what I'm talking about, and of course this
exchange led to a whole lotta (wiki and otherwise) love!

Anyway, I do not look forward to the (further ensuing?)
agenda-driven(?), moral abstractions about preemptive banning and how
SlimVirgin's ban amounted to nothing but that; insinuations on her
purported 'selectiveness,' and on how terribly unfair this whole
ordeal was to this neo-Nazi and his (surprise-sururpise, who would
have guessed it) accompanying *hit list* (ah, yes, but this hit list,
unlike some others that I, myself, had been subjected to on Wikipedia,
did take place offsite, though I would still argue, within the realm
of the known universe). Someone get the poor fellow a worthy and
so-called 'righteous' advocate(?). And most of all, I am not looking
forward to the flames, but I sure do expect them after having said all
that (which nevertheless, isn't actually so much). Alas, I do confess
to being mildly curious in seeing how subtle and/or decisive they
get...

*Though*, you can always shower me with love, instead. It is within
your power and even the realm of possibility. Please shower me with
your love. Let it shine, shine, shine. Let it shine.

Love,
El_C



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