[WikiEN-l] Re: A neo-Nazi wikipedia

Oskar Sigvardsson oskarsigvardsson at gmail.com
Tue Aug 23 20:23:30 UTC 2005


On 8/23/05, Haukur Þorgeirsson <haukurth at hi.is> wrote:
> > This guy has basically admitted
> > on another site that he will put in pro-nazi, anti-jewish POV edits.
> 
> No he has not. His theory is that Wikipedia currently has an anti-nazi
> bias and that he will be acting in compliance with the NPOV policy in
> trying to balance some articles. His edit summaries, unusually detailed
> for a newbie, amply illustrate this. In fact he specifically calls on the
> people he's trying to recruit not to do any Jew-bashing:

"I need people who are intelligent, knowledgeable, with good writing
skills and a capacity for logical thinking, to help defeat these bozos
and overturn the hatchet job they're trying to do on Mullins."

Thats enough for me.

> "However, if you're going to join in on editing the Mullins article (which I
> hope you do), follow the rules of the place - no insults or personal
> attacks, no Jew-bashing (though they so richly deserve it), try to keep a
> Neutral Point-of-View (NPOV), and stay cool, no matter how hard they push
> your buttons."

He also said:
"Say anything in any article which is not 100% Zionist-approved and
you'll have 20 of these bastards and their sycophants gnashing at your
throat within 10 minutes."

And just after your quote:
"Otherwise, you'll blow your lid and they'll just resort to the
classic trick of labelling you an "anti-Semite" or a "neo-Nazi" and
using that as a pretext for censoring everything you say."

He is saying "don't complain, they'll block you, make your edits go
under the radar and hope nobody sees you".

> Interestingly he managed to get himself moderated for using ethnic slurs
> *on the Stormfront forum*. Let them watch over their site, we'll watch
> over ours.
> 
> 
> > He has made horrible statements about fellow human beings on the
> > grounds of they having a specific race. Beyond the colour of a persons
> > skin, this man has no respect what so ever for his rights as a person.
> 
> He may be Genghis Khan reborn for all I know but he has remained civil on
> Wikipedia and complied with our rules.
> 
Maybe because that way he can make edits without getting blocked. Non?
> 
> > Is that really the kind of people we want on wikipedia?
> 
> Yes. If they make useful edits and comply with our rules and guidelines.
> 
> 
> > To edit is a privilige, not a right.
> 
> Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tool to fight nazis.
> 
> Regards,
> Haukur
> 
Yes, an encyclopedia. A place where there can be a free exchange of
information, not a place where people can tacitly input their (in this
case horrible) POVs.

Look, he has basically said "don't say anything they don't like, then
you'll get blocked" Ofcourse he is going to act curtiously!

--gkhan



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