[WikiEN-l] Nude Kate Winslet Picture

Christiaan Briggs christiaan at last-straw.net
Thu Apr 14 23:19:05 UTC 2005


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On 14 Apr 2005, at 8:45 pm, David 'DJ' Hedley wrote:

>> Absolutely not.  He specifically said that he "recognized" that people
>> were doing something with the deliberate intention of breaching 
>> policy.  I
>> see no room for misinterpretation.   Having no evidence to show, it 
>> seems
>> to me that the assumption of bad faith , and a massive, obvious one at
>> that, is on his part.  I'm revolted by this.  I see no apology.  I 
>> see no
>> withdrawal, only weaseling and wriggling.  A disgusting accusstion,
>> disgusting behavior in continuing with it.  He has now confirmed his
>> accusation of bad faith against a specific, named editor.
>
> Kevin inadvertetly made a paralipsis,
> http://www.wordsmith.org/words/paralipsis.html. A paralipsis is
> basically a way of trying to state something without having to back it
> up. It is another rhethorical trick that is very hard to counter
> because the speaker makes sure it is not he who is stating it.
>
> "I've come to the realization that
> people are searching out nude pictures to put in the 'pedia. They are
> looking
> to stir up trouble, mostly to make a point."
>
> This is a bad paralipsis that Tony rightly objected to. Kevin IS
> definitely asserting a fact here. He could have gotten away with it by
> instead of saying "I've come to the realization that..." say "I have a
> feeling that..." or "Someone told me that..." or "I've heard that..."
> or "It might be that..." If he would have phrased his paralipsis like
> that, Tony would probably appear as a petty troublemaker that
> questions something unessential. Still, since noone except Tony has
> opposed Kevin's statement, and people have questioned Tony's motives
> for "nitpicking," it shows how effective this rhethorical trick is.
> Tony has lost, but atleast he got people to question the validity of
> Kevin's statement.
>
> -- 
> mvh Björn
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Are you bringing anything to this discussion other than literary 
> analysis?
>
>
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