[WikiEN-l] Re: Learn PHP

KNOTT, T tknott at qcl.org.uk
Thu Nov 25 11:36:55 UTC 2004


I'm up for it - though when I say I know nothing - I really do mean I
know absolutely nothing. ~~~~
-----Original Message-----
From: Robin Shannon [mailto:robin.shannon at gmail.com] 
Sent: 25 November 2004 02:50
To: English Wikipedia
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Re: Learn PHP

Count me in for learning PHP in a group. I'd love to contribute but
dont have the skills... yet. Anyone else?

[[User:The bellman]]
rjs


On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 00:13:36 -0500 (EST), Shaun MacPherson
<shaun_macpherson2001 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>  --- Tim Starling <t.starling at physics.unimelb.edu.au>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Matt R wrote:
> > >  --- Tim Starling wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>Unfortunately it seems most programmers on
> > Wikipedia would rather think
> > >>of excuses, complain about the lack of progress
> > and file bug reports.
> > >
> > >
> > > There's an unfortunate tendency on Wikipedia to
> > suppose that if you identify a
> > > problem that you can fix, then you have an
> > obligation to fix it. Even if you
> > > have the capability, there is no moral imperative
> > for volunteers to do anything
> > > at all on Wikipedia, and documenting a problem is
> > already a positive
> > > contribution, albeit a comparatively minor one. Of
> > course, to grumble or whine
> > > about a problem that you've identified is
> > churlish, as you have no right to
> > > expect that others fix things on your behalf.
> > >
> > > But to get to the point: I'm very grateful to the
> > developers. I would quite
> > > like to hack on Mediawiki myself some day, but
> > right now I prefer to spend my
> > > time contributing to the content of articles --
> > this is not an *excuse*; this
> > > is a choice, and I (only mildly!) resent any such
> > implication.
> >
> > I'm sorry if I caused offence, I just wanted to
> > impress on everyone that
> > Wikipedia has barely any developers. If you're ever
> > wondering why some
> > feature hasn't been written yet, it's because
> > there's been no-one around
> > to write it. Most of the active developers seem to
> > be more interested
> > writing features for a general audience than for
> > Wikimedia projects.
> > There's more editors on the Old English Wikipedia
> > than there are
> > developers overall. Maybe Matt doesn't want to help,
> > and that's fine. I
> > get the feeling Gerrit doesn't either. But is there
> > anyone? Every second
> > Wikipedian seems to know a programming language. We
> > just need, say, two
> > or three developers willing to put in a few hours
> > per week.
> >
> > -- Tim Starling
> 
> I currently have some time on my hands and I'd love to
> be able to learn how to contribute.  What do you need
> exactly, only people who know PHP?
> 
> I little about PHP but I would be willing to learn
> from scratch :).  Hopefully there are other people who
> want to learn, we can form a little group and go
> though a few tutorials.  This way people who know PHP
> could help multiple people at once learn saving time.
> How long would you guess it take before a person would
> learn enough PHP to be useful on MediaWiki?
> 
> ShaunMacPherson
> 
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