[WikiEN-l] Re: Learn PHP

byron gamildien byronandpam at webmail.co.za
Thu Nov 25 08:31:10 UTC 2004


On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 13:50:18 +1100
 Robin Shannon <robin.shannon at gmail.com> wrote:
> Count me in for learning PHP in a group. I'd love to
> contribute but
> dont have the skills... yet. Anyone else?
> 
> [[User:The bellman]]
> rjs
> 
> 
> On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 00:13:36 -0500 (EST), Shaun
> MacPherson
> <shaun_macpherson2001 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >  --- Tim Starling <t.starling at physics.unimelb.edu.au>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > Matt R wrote:
> > > >  --- Tim Starling wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>Unfortunately it seems most programmers on
> > > Wikipedia would rather think
> > > >>of excuses, complain about the lack of progress
> > > and file bug reports.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There's an unfortunate tendency on Wikipedia to
> > > suppose that if you identify a
> > > > problem that you can fix, then you have an
> > > obligation to fix it. Even if you
> > > > have the capability, there is no moral imperative
> > > for volunteers to do anything
> > > > at all on Wikipedia, and documenting a problem is
> > > already a positive
> > > > contribution, albeit a comparatively minor one. Of
> > > course, to grumble or whine
> > > > about a problem that you've identified is
> > > churlish, as you have no right to
> > > > expect that others fix things on your behalf.
> > > >
> > > > But to get to the point: I'm very grateful to the
> > > developers. I would quite
> > > > like to hack on Mediawiki myself some day, but
> > > right now I prefer to spend my
> > > > time contributing to the content of articles --
> > > this is not an *excuse*; this
> > > > is a choice, and I (only mildly!) resent any such
> > > implication.
> > >
> > > I'm sorry if I caused offence, I just wanted to
> > > impress on everyone that
> > > Wikipedia has barely any developers. If you're ever
> > > wondering why some
> > > feature hasn't been written yet, it's because
> > > there's been no-one around
> > > to write it. Most of the active developers seem to
> > > be more interested
> > > writing features for a general audience than for
> > > Wikimedia projects.
> > > There's more editors on the Old English Wikipedia
> > > than there are
> > > developers overall. Maybe Matt doesn't want to help,
> > > and that's fine. I
> > > get the feeling Gerrit doesn't either. But is there
> > > anyone? Every second
> > > Wikipedian seems to know a programming language. We
> > > just need, say, two
> > > or three developers willing to put in a few hours
> > > per week.
> > >
> > > -- Tim Starling
> > 
> > I currently have some time on my hands and I'd love to
> > be able to learn how to contribute.  What do you need
> > exactly, only people who know PHP?
> > 
> > I little about PHP but I would be willing to learn
> > from scratch :).  Hopefully there are other people who
> > want to learn, we can form a little group and go
> > though a few tutorials.  This way people who know PHP
> > could help multiple people at once learn saving time.
> > How long would you guess it take before a person would
> > learn enough PHP to be useful on MediaWiki?
> > 
> > ShaunMacPherson
> > 
> >
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> i agree with you and would also be willing to
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