[WikiEN-l] Re: pictures of genetalia
Anthere
anthere8 at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 10 23:33:54 UTC 2004
Erik Moeller a écrit:
> Alex-
>
>>Many people agree with you Anthere, even
>>in the United States. This is an issue that has
>>become galvanized because of the supposed
>>"antisemite" connotations of circumcision (though
>>moslems also practice this form of male genital
>>mutilation as a religious right of the parents).
>
>
> This is not the place for a circumcision flamewar. Many people feel that
> in spite of lacking a foreskin, they are fully sexually functional, and
> may even believe in the supposed medical benefits of the procedure. As a
> matter of fact, there are some recent studies which promote the belief
> that circumcision even prevents HIV. I say "promote the belief" because
> these studies are fundamentally methodologically flawed, but it is easy to
> see that people might believe them, given that they have been published in
> peer reviewed (US) journals and have received widespread (international)
> media attention.
>
> There are people who believe just as forcefully that circumcision is
> right, decent and proper as I believe that it is wrong, harmful and
> pointless, and there are internally consistent arguments that can be made
> for both sides. Few subjects are as eligible to turn into long lasting
> flamewars as this one. Please do not encourage rants on this subject --
> they do not really contribute to a debate about inclusion standards.
>
> Wikipedia is not Usenet. It's not a place for advocacy of any kind. If
> anything, we should talk about how to make the article [[circumcision]]
> better, not about what's morally wrong with the procedure. Otherwise we
> might as well talk about the international arms trade, social equality,
> global warming and electronic voting machines, all very serious issues.
>
> Regards,
>
> Erik
I am going to improve the article right now, by moving to it what
currently DOES NOT belong to the penis article. Which is *absolutely*
the only position I have been holding.
I was talking of NPOV and american bias, not of any morality issues.
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