[WikiEN-l] Reversion Wars and Point of View

[Fred Bauder]

This matter is partially before the arbitration committee with respect to
RickK. I question whether anything can be done with respect to this sort of
situation (which you, 172, and I have also sometimes been in). There is at
present no rule regarding reversions, however extensive, simply a proposed
rule of 3. Likewise advocacy of a right or left wing cultural and political
point of view is common among a number of Wikipedia editors including
ourselves. I fear that to a certain extent this is simply monkey see, monkey
do.

I suggest that the solution to the general problem is to made an actually
enforceable rule regarding repeated reversions. An additional issue is to
insist that an article which falls along a left-right cultural and political
spectrum include material which authentically sets forth both viewpoints.

Fred

> From: "Abe Sokolov" <abesokolov at hotmail.com>
> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at Wikipedia.org>
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 08:53:20 +0000
> To: wikien-l at Wikipedia.org
> Subject: [WikiEN-l] Hector vs. VV/RickK proxy flame wars
> 
> I’ve been trying unsuccessfully to keep the recent changes list from looking
> lik this: HectorRodriguez's reversion of VeryVerily's additions to [[mass
> murder]], RickK's reversions of HectorRodriguez's reversions,
> HectorRodriguez's reversions of VeryVerily's reversions of HectorRodriguez's
> reversion, RickK's reversions of HectorRodriguez's reversions of
> VeryVerily's reversions of HectorRodriguez's of [[Manuel Noriega]],
> [[Panama]], [[History of Panama]], [[Communist Party of France]], [[Saddam
> Hussein]], [[mass murder]], and countless other articles.
> 
> In effect, RickK and VV have been automatically (and arbitrarily) reverting
> every single edit by Hector, subjecting him to a policy of auto revert
> reserved only for hard-banned trolls - a recipe for edit wars. On a positive
> note, RickK showed signs of agreeing to change his tactics in a recent edit
> to the Saddam page, which addressed content issues without the ad hominems.
> VV, however, still feels no need to defend his edits with counter-arguments
> backed up by factual evidence on the talk pages. He calls Hector a vandal,
> which he feels is sufficient reason to delete any edit by this user. When I
> try to give him advice for avoiding edit wars, he attacks me incessantly and
> refuses to contemplate his own biases.
> 
> Someone else has to put a stop to these silly ideological proxy battles. I
> keep on failing to steer the discussion toward content issues.
> 
> See my comments on [[Talk:Saddam Hussein]], [[Talk:Manuel Noriega]], and
> [[Talk:Mass murder]] for further details.
> 
> User:172
> 
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