[WikiEN-l] Re: Bot for generating articles on cities in Israel
Adam Raizen
araizen at newmail.net
Wed Sep 17 00:48:07 UTC 2003
Steve Vertigum wrote:
> --- Daniel Ehrenberg <littledanehren at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>What do you mean "Jewish and other"? Are all
>>christians there arab? are there no arab jews? Are
>>you
>>treating Jewish as an ethnicity or a religion? It
>>looks like ethnicity from the context.
>>LDan
>
>
> LD is correct to point out this distinciton. As I
> understand tit, an Jewish Arab, living in Israel, is
> virtually a contradiction in terms. An Arab in
> "disputed land" is not considered a citizen. An Arab
> cannot live for long in Israel without attempting to
> gain citizenship. Because the state wishes to
> artificially keep its proportions predominantly
> Jewish, there is an extreme hardship. On the other,
> (as I understand it) a Jew on "disputed land"
> considered an Israeli, because even "disputed land" is
> still Israeli land.
>
> All of these are apartheid distinctions and it is
> right to point out that Jewishness is more of a
> context, than it is anything to generate statistics
> by. If there was a clear definition by the Rabbinate
> as to ultimately who is qualified for "Israeli
> citizenship" --and were there any accurate statistics
> dealing with Palestinian refugees, then there could be
> a way to establish the merits of such a system's
> statistics.
> As it stands, they are about as useful as those from
> South Africa in the 1980s or the US in the 30's.
>
> ~S~
Well! Let's save the edit wars for the articles themselevs, okay? There
will be a link to an article which explains the demographic groups in
Israel, which we can fight over all we want.
--Adam Raizen
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