[WikiEN-l] Speaking up against the mob

Daniel Ehrenberg littledanehren at yahoo.com
Sun Oct 12 01:02:40 UTC 2003


--- Toby Bartels <toby+wikipedia at math.ucr.edu> wrote:
> But isn't that what the word in fact means?
> To report on anti-gay prejudice is not to be
> anti-gay;
> quite the contrary.
> 
> I found the article informative, and I'm hardly
> anti-gay.
> While I have grave suspicions about JiL's intentions
> here,
> I must protest the condemnation of this article /as
> such/.
> If JiL is anti-gay, then he is being more subtle
> about it
> (as any decent troll would be) than you seem to be
> inferring.
> 
> Indeed, this is the perfect edit for a troll;
> it would let a troll call us "fudgepackers" in its
> heart,
> while not explicitly condoning the word's usage
> in any of the article text that the troll actually
> writes.
> But the proper response is to neutralise the troll's
> activities --
> say by incorporating the information into
> [[Homophobic hate speech]]
> on the grounds that Wikipedia is not a dictionary,
> thus avoiding a proliferation of articles named
> after slurs
> without any appearance of direct censorship --
> rather than to attack the troll directly, which only
> feeds it.
> (I'm not committed to the position that JiL is a
> troll, BTW.
> But I find it a plausible hypothesis, and I'm
> willing to accept it
> for the sake of this argument.)
> -- Toby

Then it should be moved to Wiktionary, not just
deleted.
LDan

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