[WikiEN-l] Rampant Deletionism

[Ray Saintonge]

Rick wrote:

> Are you saying that those of us who think that VfD is useful are not 
> contributing anything useful?  What about people like Lir, who feel 
> that those of us who want to add things to VfD should instead make the 
> article somehow "better" instead of garbage?  Isn't that "taking time 
> away" from what we do best?
>
So what you are saying is that adding things to VfD is what you do best? 
 .... and a half-hour of your time is worth more than the one hour of 
combined time of other people?  Lir is right about this.

>  I'm sick and tired of being attacked as if what I'm doing on 
> Wikipedia is somehow of lesser quality thatn what you and other people 
> do.  Am I not worth keeping around?  Should I go away?
>
I'll interpret these as rhetorical questions that do not require an answer

>
>
> Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net> wrote:
>
>     Rick wrote:
>
>     > Why can't you just indicate on VfD why you think the article is
>     valid?
>     >
>     Because it requires us to spend time at VfD when we could be doing
>     something useful. The most useful contributors are busy contributing.
>     Hurrying them to improve the article in question within seven days
>     means they have to take time away from what they do best. If they are
>     interested in the subject matter they'll deal with it according to
>     their
>     own timetables, and not when some deletionist tells them to.
>
>     Some of us like to consider our votes carefully. If it takes five
>     minutes each to consider each of a dozen articles that might
>     appear on
>     VfD on a given day that's an hour of time spent just deciding on
>     votes,
>     and the article itself is still unchanged. Even when the result of a
>     vote is unquestionably in favour of deletion, and the article is
>     deleted, we are no further ahead; we're just back at the point
>     where we
>     were before that article was written.
>
>     We are all limited in the amount of time that we can contribute.
>     Consider even some of our most severe edit wars, and I would suggest
>     that at any given time the number of people directly involved is
>     fairly
>     small.
>
>     If somebody who is considering an article to be added to VfD instead
>     took 15 minutes to half an hour researching and improving that
>     article,
>     it would save everybody's time, and Wikipedia would end up with a
>     something rather than a nothing.
>