[WikiEN-l] Fate of VFD: A humble suggestion incorporating manyothers.

Andrew Lih alih at hku.hk
Fri Nov 7 09:39:15 UTC 2003


Two words: too complicated.

- A few weeks on one list, and three months on another?
- Creation of three new classes?  What is what?
- Complex scoring system?

VfD is already quasi-Wiki, this seems to bring the state of affairs even
further non-Wiki. 

-Fuzheado


> -----Original Message-----
> From: wikien-l-bounces at Wikipedia.org 
> [mailto:wikien-l-bounces at Wikipedia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 5:30 PM
> To: English Wikipedia
> Subject: [WikiEN-l] Fate of VFD: A humble suggestion 
> incorporating manyothers.
> 
> 
> Delirium <delirium at rufus.d2g.com> wrote in part:
> 
> > I propose instead we continue on the current path: list 
> stuff that can
> > be cleaned up on Wikipedia:Cleanup, and list stuff that should be 
> > deleted on VfD.  Given that only a small minority of users have 
> > expressed opposition to "deletionism", this seems like the 
> best way to go.
> > 
> > -Mark
> 
> The current path is not to keep doing what we have been doing 
> before, but to continually improve our ways and means. To 
> that end, I propose the following plan, which incorporates 
> some features of suggestions made by (in alphabetical 
> order--apologies to those who this always discriminates 
> against): AndrewA, Angela, Jake, JamesDay, Jimbo Wales, 
> Stevertigo, TakuyaMurata, Viajero (I know I am missing some folks.)
> 
> Core-rules:
> 1. Wikipedia:Cleanup be separated into 7 weekday-specific 
> files. 2. Each such file have subheaders indicating which 
> week the listings are from. 3. No article be listed on VFD 
> *before* it has spent *at least* three weeks on Cleanup. 4. 
> No article be listed on Cleanup *longer* than 12 weeks. 
> 5. No article be blanked without the content being moved to talk.
> 
> Subsidiary recommendations:
> 1.  Articles on Cleanup declared deletable include link to 
> [[Wikpedia:threatened]]. 2.  Articles on Cleanup declared 
> stubby include link to [[Wikipedia:stub]]. 3.  Articles on 
> Cleanup declared otherwise troubled include link to 
> [[Wikipedia:attention]]. 
> 4.  Articles on VFD  include link to 
> [[Wikipedia:endangered]]. 5.  Articles on PNA include link to 
> [[Wikipedia:difficult]] 6.  Cleanup-Listings have score 
> starting at  -4; users can add or decrease the score by 1. 
> 7.  Listings also have deletability-score starting at +4; 
> users adding or decreasing by 1.
> 
> Fair warning, I may reply to my own message to annotate, 
> expand etc. the above.
> 
> Respectfully (as ever):
> 
> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen (aka Cimon Avaro)
> 
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