[WikiEN-l] The principle of fair use

Brion Vibber brion at pobox.com
Tue May 27 00:45:17 UTC 2003


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Je Lundo 26 Majo 2003 11:23, Julie Kemp skribis:
> Anyway, I think we shouldn't use any images unless we can
> definitively say where they're from -- from what the librarian at my
> present college says, one still has to credit image sources for fair
> use, or it isn't fair use.

At last under threat of deletion, "Triton"/DW now admits that these two 
images:
  http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:843-870_Europe.jpg
  http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:ClovisDomain.jpg

come via:
  http://globegate.utm.edu/french/globegate_mirror/medhist.html
specifically from:
  http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/maps/844-870map.jpg
  http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/maps/frankmapc6.jpg

After some searching, I was able to find them actually cited here:
  http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/sbookmap.html

  Frankish Domains 511-561 (BW)
  Source: Gregory of Tours, History of the Franks, trans. Ernest
  Brehaut,(New York: Columbia University Press, 1916)

  The Division of the Carolingian Empire: Verdun 843 and
  Mersen, 870 (Col)
  Adapted from Muir's Historical Atlas: (1911)

Their age would seem to put them squarely in the public domain. I'm 
additing citations...

"Triton"/DW seems to have no concept of reasonable behavior in general, 
though. No ability to compromise, no interest in citing sources as 
academic honesty demands of us, no willingness to accept that we might 
have higher standards of quality assurance than the minimum obligations 
the law requires. And waaaaay too much attachment to "his" "FACTS". As 
before, any modification earns his wrath. Frankly, I'm not impressed 
and would consider anything written by this character to be suspect.

- -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
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