[WikiEN-l] Just to throw this out there...

[Ray Saintonge]

Jimmy Wales wrote:

>Toby Bartels wrote:
>
>>>Here's a set of flags that I think would work well enough for the
>>>felching article:
>>>
>>>sexuality
>>>mature content
>>>slang
>>>
>>>I don't see how those are very controversial.
>>>
>>"mature content" will definitely cause problems.
>>You imply in the rest of what you write (not only in this post)
>>«what some would consider to be appropriate only for the mature»,
>>but not only does "mature content" not say this literally,
>>but also (as somebody else pointed out) that's extremely broad,
>>and includes [[Christianity]].  So it won't be of much use.
>>
>
>Well, I don't agree.  The standards for what we mean by mature content
>can be spelled out in sufficient detail and in an NPOV way so that
>controversy is minimized.
>
>But I'm not invested in that particular phrase.  Perhaps we could use
>'explicit sexual content' to distinguish it from 'sexuality'.
>
>>If I were writing the Wikipedia code, I wouldn't spend my time
>>on writing support for these flags; that's better done (if at all)
>>by another project that operates on top of Wikipedia
>>
>
>But this is important for Wikipedia the website, not just for
>others.
>
>Some people in this debate have taken a very POV position, i.e. that
>wikipedia should shove this stuff down people's throats, and if
>they're too prudish to deal with it, too bad ha ha.  I don't agree.
>
To be effective any kind of flagging system must avoid subjective 
determinations.  Words like "explicit" and "mature" can lead to some 
serious disagreements that can't easily be resolved.  The following 
spectrum can be more objectively determined for photographs.
    1. Contains images of sex acts
    2. Contains close-up images of genitals
    3. Contains whole-body nudity
    4. Contains partial nudity
    5. Shows people in underclothes
    6. Shows suggestive photos of fully clad people

There is a gradation here, and that gives a greater opportunity to 
choose how much is acceptable.  Putting these in some coding system 
would allow these to be presented with only a few alpha-numeric characters.

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