[WikiEN-l] Lir has something to say about Jtdirl

Stevertigo stevertigo at attbi.com
Tue Jun 3 02:45:16 UTC 2003


Adam makes a good point, which gets at the central flaw of the "rule by consensus" thing here - which unfortunately means - limited, unannounced consensus building - (wikimoney?? - sorry guys - eughh! )  - and untabulated results that tend to fall to the propreitor for a "last word" - something Captain Jim considers a very mixed bag - children need to take care of themselves after all... Politics, in other words - its not something that people can even conceptualize, let alone deal with well.

But also, the fact that Adam is still around and conducting himself with ( apparently ) increasing degrees of consideration and intelligence - (putting sentences together - coherence, making a point ) which might be a sign that Adam has been benefitting from the WP. What could be better than that?

And best of all, Zoe seems to have learned - (excuse me for saying this)  from her Old archnemesis Adam -( And new one - Michael,) that the role of Stalwart Politico-Policeperson comes with a price of having a whole bunch of threads to deal with - None of which are worth tripping too much on. Unless its pure vandalism - problems are just too subjective to just jump to judgements about. At some point, Zoe was using so few words in her messages, I thought she would stop using English altogether and start using Hangi to write stuff like "Adam bad." - Just two or three pictographs possibly. Quite efficient. 

(Not to dig too much on Zo, or to excuse Adam for his documented, historical, lack of having better things to do.)

And all this ultimately reveals the fact that the WP can't possibly be anything that fits into a tidy conceptual mold - as ideo-dogmatism would suggest - and all dogmatists realize, at some point, that "a bigger shovel" (quoth the Clinton)- and the resulting deeper hole - doesnt solve anything.

-SM
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