[WikiEN-l] Sex articles on wikipedia (was: Kils sysop status temporarily revoked)

Michael Becker wikipedia at jumpingjackweb.com
Tue Jun 3 02:04:07 UTC 2003


Actually, the rule of thumb is to use the most commonly used name.  So
Blow Job would be a more than appropriate redirect to Fellatio.

--
Michael Becker

-----Original Message-----
From: wikien-l-admin at wikipedia.org [mailto:wikien-l-admin at wikipedia.org]
On Behalf Of Daniel Ehrenberg
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9.32
To: wikien-l at wikipedia.org
Subject: [WikiEN-l] Sex articles on wikipedia (was: Kils sysop status
temporarily revoked)


--- Jimmy Wales <jwales at bomis.com> wrote:
> Erik Moeller wrote:
> > > I should add that I'm not particularly
> comfortable with the page in
> > > question, [[fisting]], myself.
> > 
> > Any more or less so than any of the other articles
> in [[List of sexology
> > topics]]?
> 
> That's a long list, and so let me list some examples
> of what I am
> personally comfortable with.  But let me stress that
> I'm NOT making
> any policy here, I'm just arguing as an ordinary
> wikipedian, trying to
> help explore these issues thoughtfully.
> 
> Some of the terms there are scientific terms, others
> are sociological,
> but some are slang terms, generally used primarily
> for shock value.
> 
> [[backdoor entrance]], a slang term I guess,
> redirects to [[anal
> intercourse]].  What purpose does that redirect
> serve?  Well, it
> serves *some* purpose, I suppose, but does that
> purpose outweigh the
> cost?
> 
> [[blow job]] is a slang term, but unlike [[backdoor entrance]], it is
> a very very *common* term.  To me that commonness
> adds points towards
> inclusion.
> 
> [[snowballing]]?
> 
> I'm just not sure about some of these things.
> 
> Now, please do keep in mind that I'm personally not uncomfortable with
> these terms.  If you think that's it, you should
> probably poke around
> Bomis a bit, ha ha.  But I am not so sure that we
> are currently
> handling these things in the best way for Wikipedia.
> 
> --Jimbo

I think all of those redirect articles are just
unnecessary. There is already (I think) a policy to
use the technical terms for everything, or atleast the semi-technical
terms, so those slang expressions don't fit, and the links (as well as
the article text
itself) should reflect this. If somebody (for some
reason) searches for 'blow job' and doesn't get any
title results, he can just scroll down a little and
see the article on 'oral sex' (this isn't an issue yet
but I know someone will bring it up). If someone links
to 'blow job' and creates a page, someone should
quickly delete the page and change the link to [[oral
sex]].  This really shouldn't be an issue. Just
imagine a 7-year-old looking for an article on blowing
bubbles, so she searches for "bubble blow" and gets an
article on oral sex in the title search.
--LittleDan

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