[WikiEN-l] Israeli-Palestinian neutrality

Wed Jul 16 13:48:07 UTC 2003

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>It strikes me as increasingly obvious that some concerted effort to be as 
>NPOV as possible on the Israeli-Palestinian issue is necessary, as it's 
>starting to be one of the more frequent edit wars, and distributed 
>throughout the wiki, even in places you might not expect.
>
>Two issues in particular that have come up lately, one from each side:
>
>1. [[User:BL]] is mass-adding the contents of palestineremembered.com -- 
>massive lists with hundreds of subpages comprising every village (defined 
>as 10 or more people) destroyed in the 1948 war, every "massacre" (defined 
>as 10 or more people) committed or purportedly committed during that war 
>(little effort is made to distinguish), and a whole host of other 
>information that's difficult if not impossible to verify.
>
>Even if it weren't for the difficulty in verifying this information, it 
>strikes me as somewhat odd that we'd have 300 pages dedicated to Arabs 
>killed in 1948, and only a single page dedicated to the Armenian genocide, 
>or the Pontian Genocide, or the Hutu-Tutsi genocide, and so on.  I don't 
>think it'd be a good idea to add 10,000 pages or so, one for each village 
>("village" defined as 10 people or more) destroyed in each of those 
>conflicts.  And if we're going to have a separate page for every instance 
>of civilian deaths during a war, WW2 alone would be another 10,000 pages or 
>so.
>
>2. [[User:RK]] is, as is probably obvious, somewhat of a pro-Israeli 
>activist, and is becoming difficult to clean up.  The latest thing I've 
>noticed is him adding 2-paragraph-long attacks on Arab anti-Semitism to 
>articles such as [[George Washington]] and [[Benjamin Franklin]], in the 
>guise of "defending" their "tarnished" reputations against charges of 
>anti-Semitism stemming from little-known fabricated quotes.
>
>Not to single out these two users in particular; they're the two that come 
>to mind at first.  And these two issues in particular are also being dealt 
>with on talk pages.  But it's becoming clear that it will be very difficult 
>to catch all of these, so perhaps some more concerted effort is needed.  
>I'm not sure exactly what to propose, but it seems as a minimum we need a 
>group of several people who are not particularly partial to either side -- 
>but who are knowledgeable about the issues -- to essentially police 
>(hopefully in as unconfrontational a way as possible) this sort of stuff.  
>The problem is that those most knowledgeable and interested in spending a 
>great deal of time writing articles on these topics are often those who are 
>most partisan to one side or the other.
>
>Suggestions?
>
>-Mark
>
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