Hi Léa, Jan, Gerard, Erika, Markus and Wikidatans,
Thanks very much for the clarification, Jan.
I'll explore creating a "Wikipedia-Wikidata List Generation" help page per your suggestion, and link it to - https://www.wikidata.org/ wiki/Wikidata:List_generation_input (and possibly to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:List too) - and possibly with video tutorials.
The three lists as examples - and for my own understanding of how this would work on both the Wikipedia and Wikidata sides - I'd like to begin with would include
1) a) a list of all 7,943+ languages (http://glottolog.org/glottolog/language) on the Wikipedia with b) WUaS's SUBJECT TEMPLATE ( http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE) on the Wikidata / SPARQL side
2) a) a list of all CC MIT OCW courses (http://ocw.mit.edu/) in 7 languages ( http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/translated-courses/) on the Wikipedia side, with b) a WUaS Course Catalog ( https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VRHhXYsk-V9lvSh5onaU2hnEhwoapSN7HyBK...) on the Wikidata side
3) a) a list of potential matriculating and open students (at top here - http://worlduniversityandschool.org/) on the WUaS MediaWiki side https://web.archive.org/web/20150324001526/http://worlduniversityandschool.o... - paralleling the Wikipedia side) with b) how they might query the above SUBJECT TEMPLATE and WUaS Course Catalog +
And from these and in conversation with this Wikidata community, I hope to be able to extrapolate how list generation in Wikipedia/Wikidata works, and from this develop a Wikipedia/Wikidata help page for this for others.
Thank you.
Kind regards, Scott
On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 1:01 AM, Jan Dittrich jan.dittrich@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hi Scott,
Thanks for your suggestion!
I'd love to have more good information on using Wikidata. I assume, though, that putting it to the Scenarios for *List generation input *maybe not the best place (although the name suggests input in general, and I am guilty of not choosing a more specific title!)
The scenarios currently concern sharing the (real life) workflows of people who generate lists, so it may run counter the idea of suggesting/teaching workflows there (although a beginners might find them to be useful examples!)
If you want to create such a help page, feel free to link them on the List generation Input page (as said above, the title might suggest such content).
Kind Regards, Jan
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 11:44:33 -0700 From: Scott MacLeod worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikidata] List generation input Message-ID: <CADy6Cs_qZ6=sWKaCkNEZZ4LqatuK=sCb2TvaVBCOwc7a5=bnFw@mail.gm ail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi Lea, Jan, Gerrard and All,
In terms of "List Generation Input," would it make sense to add a basic intro tutorial (in video perhaps - is there one even?) about how to create a new large list in the first place in Wikipedia based on Wikidata / Wikibase, as well as a possible sandbox for exploring this? (When I google searched on "starting a long list in Wikipedia," I found this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:List - "This help page explains how to create and edit lists on the English Wikipedia," which also doesn't mention Wikidata).
Say, for example, I wanted to create a complete list of all languages in Wikipedia beginning with Glottolog's CC list here - http://glottolog.org/glottolog/language - with 7,943 entries in languages (to create wiki schools for open teaching and learning in those languages (using WUaS's Subject Template - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE), how would I begin to do this? (WUaS donated CC WUaS to Wikidata last autumn). (Similarly with all species, beginning with a complete CC list, for example, and in order to eventually co-develop, for example, an all-species' image recognition application - hold your smartphone up to any species anywhere, and identify it - and in any language), how would I begin to add such lists to Wikipedia with Wikidata?
Shall I add a scenario D to this page - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_generation_input - with these questions above?
Thank you, Scott
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