<div dir="ltr">...while I strongly disagree with making up terms. I don't want to use terms with a different connotation.<div><br></div><div>Vito</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-01-26 15:47 GMT+01:00 mathieu stumpf guntz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:psychoslave@culture-libre.org" target="_blank">psychoslave@culture-libre.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_6865324002065321382moz-cite-prefix">Le 26/01/2017 à 12:02, Vi to a écrit :<br>
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board/componente del board [board member]".</div>
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I strongly disagree with such a practice. To my mind it might give
the feeling that only English can be used when it comes to talk
about the most formal part of our movement. That is, crossing the
line between English as a practical tool of international
communication and English as a tool of imperialism destroying
language diversity.<br>
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I hope no-one will wrongly interpret me here. I have no problem with
loanwords for a concept which is specific, for example "shérif" is
fine. And if it would happen that "trustee" is as specific as is
"sheriff", I wouldn't mind a loanword.<br>
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But in the case of "board", there is certainly no lake of equivalent
whether in French, or in Italian as far as I know. To my mind, this
is unnecessarily opaque term for non-English speakers that we should
avoid while we are in outreach activity. Sure when we are "between
us" it's less problematic regarding cross-comprehension directly
involved locutors. But it creates bad habits we will likely
reproduce when new comers are around, which is problematic in
regards to our openness commitment.<br>
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Pedantically,<br>
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<div dir="auto">It is indeed referring to the Board
of Trustees. Another common translation that I've
seen for "Board" in French is "Conseil
d'administration".<br>
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</span> Well, that's sound less whimsical to my mind. Now
as it seems <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trustee" target="_blank">Trustee</a> is a word with a precise
legal definition in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law" target="_blank">common law</a>, and I don't know if
there is any really good transposable term in a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_law_%28legal_system%29" target="_blank">civil law</a> terminology. In French, it
seems that depending on context you might also use "<span id="m_6865324002065321382m_2700288485424676284result_box" class="m_6865324002065321382m_2700288485424676284short_text" lang="fr"><span>curateur",
"fidéicommisaire".<br>
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So from a legal point of view, I must admit I don't
know what would be the most appropriate, but from what
I'm accustomed to hear, "Conseil d’adminstration"
seems the less odd.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Le 25 janv. 2017 06:08,
"mathieu stumpf guntz" <<a href="mailto:psychoslave@culture-libre.org" target="_blank">psychoslave@culture-libre.org</a><wbr>>
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<p><font face="Linux Biolinum O">I'm
working on this:<br>
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<p><font face="Linux Biolinum O"><a class="m_6865324002065321382m_2700288485424676284m_-2788986663812682587moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=agg-2017_Wikimedia_movement_strategy_process&language=eo&filter=%21translated&action=translate" target="_blank">https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/i<wbr>ndex.php?title=Special:Transla<wbr>te&group=agg-2017_Wikimedia_mo<wbr>vement_strategy_process&langua<wbr>ge=eo&filter=%21translated&<wbr>action=translate</a></font></p>
<p><font face="Linux Biolinum O">where
"Board" is a recurring term. <br>
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<p><font face="Linux Biolinum O">I guess
that it is referring to the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_of_trustees" target="_blank">board of trustees</a>.
Am I wrong?</font></p>
<p><font face="Linux Biolinum O">If not,
in the previous link, translations are
rather parse in their meaning (as far
as I can say):</font></p>
<ul>
<li><font face="Linux Biolinum O">Kuratorium<br>
</font></li>
<li><font face="Linux Biolinum O">Consejo
directivo</font></li>
<li><font face="Linux Biolinum O">Zuzendaritza
Batzordea</font></li>
<li><font face="Linux Biolinum O">Comité
des sages</font></li>
<li><font face="Linux Biolinum O">Rada
Powiernicza</font></li>
<li><font face="Linux Biolinum O">Conselho
Diretivo</font></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Linux Biolinum O">I
translated "trustees" it in Esperanto
to "kuratoro" (you find the same roots
in the German translation), and "board
of trustees" as "kuratoraro" (group of
"kuratoro"), but "board" alone as
"estraro" (group of
leader/boss/chief). <br>
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<p><font face="Linux Biolinum O">Any
comment is welcome.<br>
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