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<p><font face="Linux Biolinum O">So, here is a corresponding task:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155824">https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155824</a></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 20/01/2017 à 11:25, mathieu stumpf
guntz a écrit :<br>
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<p><font face="Linux Biolinum O">Saluton Haytham,<br>
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<p><font face="Linux Biolinum O">If you look at <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions#.23time">the
documentation</a>, non-Gregorian formating is supported. Now
having a deeper look at it, it seems that <a
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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_calendar">Assyrian
calendar</a> is not yet in the set of supported calendars,
so a phabricator ticket should be filled here I think,
shouldn't it. I don't know what is the the ISO 639-3 you would
like to use "<i>aii</i>" (Assyrian Neo-Aramaic) or <i>"arc</i>"
(Aramaic language), but in both case <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Psychoslave/asiria_kalendaro">it
seems that localization is missing</a> for already provided
month names.<br>
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<font face="Linux Biolinum O">So for the sake of the example,
let's say there was a "xaF" formatting code which would provide
an Assyrian calendar full month name, then as far as I
understand, you would like to use:</font><br>
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<p><tt>{{#time:xaF|$date1|aii</tt><code></code><tt>}}
({{#time:F|$date1|aii</tt><code></code><tt>}})</tt></p>
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<p><tt>Thank you Johan for the feedback request. We have here and
there complaints when staff is argued to not take enough into
account community advises, so it seems fair to also emphasize
actions when they are done with a community feedback in the
loop.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 19/01/2017 à 18:58, Haytham Aly a
écrit :<br>
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<p><font size="-1"><font face="Georgia">Hi Johan,</font></font></p>
<p><font size="-1"><font face="Georgia">This idea is brilliant.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="-1"><font face="Georgia">My own concern for
Arabic is that there are two major ways for displaying
Gregorian month names; transliteration as well as the
Assyrian names. Usually transliterated names suffice, but
I prefer using both divided by a slash. This is due to
differences in official use, since transliterated names
are used in Egypt, Sudan, Libya, Yemen, and Gulf states;
while Assyrian names are used in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon,
Jordan and Palestine. Could this automation function
render both or just the common transliterated month names?
It would be a bonus to have both displayed, though only
transliterated month names would suffice.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="-1"><font face="Georgia">Regards,</font></font><br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Haytham Abulela Aly
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Registered at ProZ.com and LinkedIn.com</pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/01/2017 8:31 AM, Johan
Jönsson wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi everyone,
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<div>TL;DR: Dates in items that are in the newsletter every
week could be in a format that means you could get a 100%
in the translation memory and not have to change the days
and months every week. Do you want this?</div>
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<div>Longer version:</div>
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<div>Based on Mathieu's suggestion, I've tested adding dates
within <tvar> tags. This makes it more complicated
the first time you translate, but should mean that you can
then use a 100% match from the translation memory every
time and just click on it the same way you do for any
other content that stays exactly the same, instead of
manually having to change the days and months every new
week.</div>
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<div>It looks like this:<br>
{#time:<tvar|defualtformat>d
xg</>|<tvar|date1>2017-01-24</>|<tvar|format_language_code>{{CURRENTCONTENTLANGUAGE}}</>}}
which means that I get this when I translate:<br>
{{#time:$defualtformat|$date1|$format_language_code}}.</div>
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<div>For Swedish, I can just keep it like that: Where the
English original said "24 January" the Swedish translation
will say "24 januari". </div>
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<div>Some languages write dates in another format. For
Mandarin Chinese, the first time I do a translation I need
to change it to
{{#time:n月j日|$date1|$format_language_code}} (and the same
for $date2 and $date3). I imagine RTL languages will need
to change something too the first time they translate
this, for example.</div>
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<div>All possible options are described here:<br>
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<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions#.23time">https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions#.23time</a> </div>
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<div>Pro: Less burden for returning translators. You
translate this once, whether you change the date format or
not, then you just click on the translation in the
translation memory next week.</div>
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<div>Con: More complicated. More difficult for new
translators, especially if the standard format doesn't
match the norms of their language.</div>
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<div>The question: Do you want this, or did you prefer it
the way it was? This is all about making it as easy as
possible for you, so you decide.</div>
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href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=page-Tech%2FNews%2F2017%2F04&action=page">https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=page-Tech%2FNews%2F2017%2F04&action=page</a><br>
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