[Toolserver-l] WikiMiniAtlas

Gerald A geraldablists at gmail.com
Fri Feb 13 16:03:27 UTC 2009


On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Lars Aronsson <lars at aronsson.se> wrote:

> I am a programmer. Even though I don't have a toolserver account,
> I understand that much of this relies on individual efforts, and I
> applaud this. But features like this WikiMiniAtlas (or all the
> services that rely on s3 replication) are too impressive and
> useful to rely completely on the voluntary efforts of single
> individuals. In this case, it doesn't help if I offer my help,
> because I don't get any response at all. That is harmful for all
> projects. Now I feel I can't trust anything to work.
> We need to reorganize this, so that each task can be performed by
> more than one individual.  Individual projects must be banned.

I think this is a bit harsh.

> Instead, we need to form groups with group access to make updates
> and respond to questions.  This might sound harsh, but it's
> actually very easy to implement. Just assign a second person to
> all of your individual projects, and keep the door open for more
> to join. Use the Linux group permissions (chmod g+w) for access,
> and use the user ID only for identity.

There is a recognition that group effort can be helpful on some projects,
and the toolserver admin team have set up a system where more mature and
used projects are placed on a "stable" server. I even think this mechanism
allows for more then one user to "own" the project, so what you are asking
for already exists.

I'm not a toolserver admin, and I can't speak for the project you mention. I
do understand it can be frustrating when you can help but you are prevented
from doing so, but keep in mind that many, if not all of the projects on the
toolserver are done with volunteer time. Volunteers have different amounts
of free time, and different priorities.

If you have time to contribute, it might be more effective to ask if you can
be given access, rather then demand things be a certain way. I'm sure we all
have the common goal that we want to see the community grow and get better,
so let's pursue things in that spirit.

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