<div dir="ltr">Just in case it wasn't clear: that was my bad attempt at humor, nothing more.<br><br><span style="font-size:125%">☮</span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Mukunda Modell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mmodell@wikimedia.org" target="_blank">mmodell@wikimedia.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I hear that breathing can be dangerous. Showers also.<br><br></div>I apologize for adding precisely nothing useful to this otherwise interesting and thought provoking thread.<br></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:42 PM, Kevin Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ksmith@wikimedia.org" target="_blank">ksmith@wikimedia.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thanks both for sharing those links. It quickly became clear to me that my definitions of empathy, sympathy, and compassion, are fuzzy. Quick skims of the relevant wikipedia article intros didn't really help. <br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I have heard that sympathy is "bad", so I'll just empathize instead. Oops, empathy is now dangerous? No problem, I'll just have compassion. Did I actually change anything other than the word?<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I just proposed a Tea Time topic for this. <br><span class="m_-5473111493313412854HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class="m_-5473111493313412854HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-5473111493313412854m_719299373815975547gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span><font color="#888888"><br>Kevin Smith<br>Agile Coach, Wikimedia Foundation<br></font></span><font><font><i><font color="#888888"><br></font></i></font></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br></font></span><div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Natalia Harateh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nharateh@wikimedia.org" target="_blank">nharateh@wikimedia.org</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><div><div class="m_-5473111493313412854h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Thanks for sharing, Max! I’ll definitely read the article. If I can add to the discussion, here’s a <a href="https://youtu.be/1Evwgu369Jw" target="_blank">short 2:53 min video explaining empathy in a way that resonated with me</a>.<div><br></div><div>TL;DR:</div><div><br></div><div><i>What is the best way to ease someone's pain and suffering? In this beautifully animated RSA Short, Dr Brené Brown reminds us that we can only create a genuine empathic connection if we are brave enough to really get in touch with our own fragilities.</i><br>
<br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="m_-5473111493313412854m_719299373815975547h5"><div>On 23 Feb 2017, at 23:53, Max Binder <<a href="mailto:mbinder@wikimedia.org" target="_blank">mbinder@wikimedia.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-5473111493313412854m_719299373815975547m_-868316542353758788Apple-interchange-newline"></div></div><div><div><div class="m_-5473111493313412854m_719299373815975547h5"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>I ran across an article claiming that empathizing with others on their issues can be a slippery slope to bias, or at the very least unnecessary absorption of another person's issues and feelings. The article was political in nature, so I won't post it, but it did make some claims that I thought to research.<br><br></div>That let me to this article on compassion as an alternative to empathy:<br><a href="http://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/when_empathy_hurts_compassion_can_heal" target="_blank">http://greatergood.berkeley.ed<wbr>u/article/item/when_empathy_hu<wbr>rts_compassion_can_heal</a><br><br></div>I can't attest for the reputation of the site linked, but it makes some interesting arguments. I thought those arguments might be relevant since we often operate in an environment with, and espouse values using, words like "empathy." <br><br></div>TL;DR:<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 15px;outline:none 0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">we can better cope with others’ negative emotions by strengthening our own compassion skills, which the researchers define as “feeling concern for another’s suffering and desiring to enhance that individual’s welfare.”</div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 15px;outline:none 0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">“Empathy is really important for understanding others’ emotions very deeply, but there is a downside of empathy when it comes to the suffering of others,” says Olga Klimecki, a researcher at the Max Planck Institute for Human Cognitive and Brain Sciences in Germany and the lead author of the study. “When we share the suffering of others too much, our negative emotions increase. It carries the danger of an emotional burnout.”</div></blockquote></div></div></div>
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