<div dir="ltr"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> Please DON'T give me garish trendy colors and patterns in a seat that has to last 20 years.</span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Reminds me of a story from college. Our dining hall had these enormous oak chairs, and they were just terrible: uncomfortable, heavy, scratched the floor, didn't sit next to one another properly, pinched fingers, just the worst. When I asked the person in charge why we had these awful chairs, he answered, "Because they last forever." o_0 <br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Kevin Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ksmith@wikimedia.org" target="_blank">ksmith@wikimedia.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I am disturbed by the amount of money that seems to go into designing custom transit upholstery. To me, that kind of "form over function" is what gives design a bad name. Please DON'T give me garish trendy colors and patterns in a seat that has to last 20 years. Find some neutral pattern and color that hides stains well and isn't too depressing, and stick with it. Go for timeless, not "quickly obsolete". <br><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">As for fonts, my peeve with Helvetica and Arial is that they don't distinguish capital I from lower-case l. Back in the day, I liked one font's tweak of putting little serifs on the capital I (I thought it was Tahoma, but apparently not). I see that Verdana puts a little wiggle in the lower-case l instead, which is better than nothing, but not great. Georgia doesn't particularly appeal to me, probably because I grew up in the pixelated world, where serifs made no sense on screen. <br><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I think I'll leave gmail set to "sans-serif", and configure my browser to default to Ubuntu fonts. <br><br>Unfortunately, thanks to the crime against humanity promoted by github, of requiring custom fonts for basic functionality, I (probably) can't just set my browser to always use MY preferred fonts. Instead, I (probably) have to live with whatever crappy font the web page creator felt like shoving down my throat. That means that I'm (probably) stuck with Helvetica/Arial most of the time. Ugh. <br><br>Whew. Feels great to drag that rant back out of the attic and give it some fresh air!</span><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span><font color="#888888"><br>Kevin Smith<br>Agile Coach, Wikimedia Foundation<br></font></span><font><font><i><font color="#888888"><br></font></i></font></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br></font></span><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Grace Gellerman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ggellerman@wikimedia.org" target="_blank">ggellerman@wikimedia.org</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif">1. Charming story about constraints, product requirements, making visible that which would otherwise be invisible, and the role of design:<br><br><a href="http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20160804-why-are-trains-seats-so-hideous?utm_source=digg&utm_medium=twitter" target="_blank">http://www.bbc.com/autos/story<wbr>/20160804-why-are-trains-seats<wbr>-so-hideous?utm_source=digg&ut<wbr>m_medium=twitter</a><br></font><div><font face="georgia, serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="georgia, serif">2. Recognizing context and the value of design in improving the sustainable pace of work by reducing the waste of fatigue, improving speed of recognition, and designing for humans:</font></div><div><font face="georgia, serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="georgia, serif"><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-27/your-e-mail-font-is-ruining-your-life" target="_blank">http://www.bloomberg.com/news/<wbr>articles/2015-07-27/your-e-mai<wbr>l-font-is-ruining-your-life</a></font></div></div></div>
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