[teampractices] Use cases for work tracking, sub-projects, etc in Phabricator

Max Binder mbinder at wikimedia.org
Thu Mar 3 20:15:36 UTC 2016


+1

My teams are already using that visibility to stay on top of things better.

On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Joel Aufrecht <jaufrecht at wikimedia.org>
wrote:

> At first I thought that the new Phabricator features didn't help us
> significantly with categorization, since sub-projects don't do much
> (yet?).  However, as Kristen pointed out, the project tags are now visible
> on cards, which means that using project tagging is suddenly much more
> useful, compared to columns or parent task grouping.
>
>
>
> *--Joel Aufrecht*
> Team Practices Group
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Max Binder <mbinder at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> The milestone columning feature, while something I can see providing
>> value, doesn't do much for my POs so far. However, there is some interest
>> in tagging tasks by feature category, as opposed to parenting under
>> sticky-epics, or using a column for each feature. Creating separate tags
>> (projects) for apps-specific tasks can make Phab messy overall if there are
>> a lot of them, but Milestones might solve this problem by essentially
>> existing as project-specific "tags."
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Kevin Smith <ksmith at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Based on a quick hallway conversation with Joel, I came away feeling
>>> like sub-projects probably won't be useful to Discovery. I do still hope to
>>> experiment with them at some point, though.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, hearing that milestone tasks appear in as a column in
>>> the parent task's board is quite intriguing. I'll have to check with our
>>> POs to see if that would be useful.
>>>
>>> We are contemplating restructuring the Discovery projects and boards, so
>>> this is nice timing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kevin Smith
>>> Agile Coach, Wikimedia Foundation
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 12:48 AM, Quim Gil <qgil at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 12:08 AM, Joel Aufrecht <jaufrecht at wikimedia.org
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm trying to work out, on behalf of VE, exactly how we would want to
>>>>> use the new sub-project and milestone functionality.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Community Liaisons and Developer Relations have a much simpler process,
>>>> but I still wonder whether we could improve it by using subprojects.
>>>>
>>>> We have team projects to tag any tasks related to our teams, i.e.
>>>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/27/
>>>>
>>>> Then, we organize what we call monthly sprints but is actually not a
>>>> "Sprint project" but a tag that we add to tasks that we plan to work on a
>>>> certain month, without a commitment to finish them, no story points, no
>>>> burndown. See for instance
>>>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/1649/
>>>>
>>>> In theory, these monthly sprints could be subprojects of our team
>>>> project, right? If I understood the subprojects feature correctly, this
>>>> would mean that
>>>>
>>>> * Tasks in a sprint (subproject) would not appear in the main project
>>>> (team) workboard, which would be useful to see the tasks that haven't been
>>>> scheduled yet.
>>>> * Tasks in one subproject (i.e. #Liaisons-March-2016) could still be
>>>> added to other subprojects as well (April, May, etc).
>>>>
>>>> Do you think this approach makes sense?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Quim Gil
>>>> Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation
>>>> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
>>>>
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