[teampractices] Experimenting with Pivotal Tracker

[Pau Giner]

>
> I refactored https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project_management_tools


I added iceScrum ( http://www.icescrum.org/en/ ) to the list. It is
Opensource and it has automatic charts, and the basics to support scrum.
I used it in a former company (about 2 years ago) but I didn't made such an
intensive use as with Mingle today, so I cannot provide an accurate
comparison

Pau


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Erik Moeller <erik at wikimedia.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Steven Walling <swalling at wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
> > Does this mean we get to hire an internal tools team someday? :)
>
> Absolutely, we will get to hire an internal tools team someday.
> Someday is a nicely relative agile time estimate - maybe I'll give you
> a burndown chart to go along with it. ;-)
>
> In seriousness, I think the tooling problem is very tricky, and a
> "tools team" isn't necessarily the answer. My worry would be that they
> immediately take on a very large problem (like creating our own agile
> PM tool), which then becomes their only development/maintenance
> responsibility.
>
> Distributing the load among other orgs that have the same problem
> would be ideal. At the same time, the development of tools with a
> beautiful user experience and a clear product vision tends to benefit
> from a significant degree of integrated resourcing and leadership. For
> a very ambitious project like a solid alternative to
> Mingle/Trello/Pivotal/..., this might be a case where a joint
> investment by e.g. Wikimedia+Mozilla in a third party org could be a
> better way to bootstrap something than in-house development.
>
> For less ambitious projects (like experimenting with existing
> Bugzilla-based solutions), the combination of more engineering
> staffing overall + careful choices where we prioritize effort will
> hopefully enable us to make steady progress.
>
> Erik
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Pau Giner
Interaction Designer
Wikimedia Foundation
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