<div dir="ltr">On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Greg Grossmeier <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:greg@wikimedia.org" target="_blank">greg@wikimedia.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
I fear much of the worry about Beta Cluster is due to the rocky<br>
transition to HHVM (which was less than ideal). We are better<br>
equipped/able to deal with such changes in the future right now (and<br>
we are no longer experiencing HHVM-related issues, afaict).<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>We've been told this many times, i.e. "Don't worry, the problems are all in the past." Yet Beta Labs keep having serious outages on a weekly basis. Just a few days after you sent this email, mobile Beta Labs had a nearly full-day outage which caused serious headaches for both the mobile and VE teams.[1] I would totally love to stay on the existing Beta Labs cluster, but we just keep having these outages week after week, despite assurances that things would stabilize. This is a major pain point that we need to have addressed in some way or another. Would spinning up an Alpha Labs cluster (for experimental features) be a reasonable solution?<br><br>1. <a href="https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72997">https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72997</a><br><br></div><div>Ryan Kaldari<br></div></div><br></div></div>